Crisis in the Ukraine

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SampanViking

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Two main stories rumbling on today

Top story of course the Russian Aid Convoy that should arrive at the Ukrainian border later today. A situation positively pregnant with possibility.

Second story, is the almost unbelievable event of a bus load of (very well equipped) Right Sector militants rolling into a militia Check point. Needless to say that the bus and its passengers lost the engagement and very heavily. Story verified even by the BBC and very graphic pictures and video on the net. Part of the story is that an item was found among the dead that was the trademark of Right Sector poster boy; a Georgian merc nicknamed Doberman, who was associated with the Donbass punitive battalion.
I can only guess that this simply illustrates the danger of following propaganda without proper checking. If the BBC map situational map is based on what Kiev is putting out, they probably genuinely believed that they were in Kiev controlled territory and that they were approaching a pro Kiev checkpoint.

For those with the time and inclination, simply go back a page and look at the sit map from Monday and compare it to the map on the Beeb and no doubt other MSM.

Beyond that, the militia have put out a couple of new videos showing wreckage and spoils from the Cauldron. Interesting how quite a bit of the ammo is not marked in Cyrillic.

[video=youtube_share;oWHeo-30fN0]http://youtu.be/oWHeo-30fN0[/video]

[video=youtube_share;X_bpZMKInN4]http://youtu.be/X_bpZMKInN4[/video]
 

delft

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There continues talk by Kiev and NATO of a Russian invasion, possibly by using 280 white painted vans. :)
But when NATO went to destroy Libya there was no invasion, just a no fly zone and the bombardment of the Libyan army. If Ukraine obstructs the delivery of humanitarian aid Russia can decide on a similar policy without of course actually destroying Ukraine.
 

delft

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Some background:
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What Do the World Bank and IMF Have to Do With the Ukraine Conflict?
By Frederic Mousseau

OAKLAND, United States, Aug 12 2014 (IPS) - Mostly unreported as the Ukraine conflict captures headlines, international financing has played a significant role in the current conflict in Ukraine.

In late 2013, conflict between pro-European Union (EU) and pro-Russian Ukrainians escalated to violent levels, leading to the departure of President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014 and prompting the greatest East-West confrontation since the Cold War.

A major factor in the crisis that led to deadly protests and eventually Yanukovych’s removal from office was his rejection of an EU association agreement that would have further opened trade and integrated Ukraine with the European Union. The agreement was tied to a 17 billion dollars loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Instead, Yanukovych chose a Russian aid package worth 15 billion dollars plus a 33 percent discount on Russian natural gas.

The relationship with international financial institutions changed swiftly under the pro-EU government put in place at the end of February 2014 which went for the multi-million dollar IMF package in May 2014.

Announcing a 3.5 billion dollars aid programme on May 22, World Bank president Jim Yong Kim lauded the Ukrainian authorities for developing a comprehensive programme of reforms, and their commitment to carry it out with support from the World Bank Group. He failed to mention the neo-liberal conditions imposed by the Bank to lend money, including that the government limit its own power by removing restrictions that hinder competition and limiting the role of state control in economic activities.


The rush to provide new aid packages to the country with the new government aligned with the neo-liberal agenda was a reward from both institutions.

The East-West competition over Ukraine, however, is about the control of natural resources, including uranium and other minerals, as well as geopolitical issues such as Ukraine’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

The stakes around Ukraine’s vast agricultural sector, the world’s third largest exporter of corn and fifth largest exporter of wheat, constitute a critical factor that has been overlooked. With ample fields of fertile black soil that allow for high production volumes of grains, Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe.

In the last decade, the agricultural sector has been characterised by a growing concentration of production within very large agricultural holdings that use large-scale intensive farming systems. Not surprisingly, the presence of foreign corporations in the agricultural sector and the size of agro-holdings are both growing quickly, with more than 1.6 million hectares signed over to foreign companies for agricultural purposes in recent years.

Now the goal is to set policies that will benefit Western corporations. Whereas Ukraine does not allow the use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture, Article 404 of the EU agreement, which relates to agriculture, includes a clause that has generally gone unnoticed: both parties will cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies.

Given the struggle for resources in Ukraine and the influx of foreign investors in the agriculture sector, an important question is whether the results of the programme will benefit Ukraine and its farmers by securing their property rights or pave the way for corporations to more easily access property and land.

By encouraging reforms such as the deregulation of seed and fertiliser markets, the country’s agricultural sector is being forced open to foreign corporations such as Dupont and Monsanto.

The Bank’s activities and its loan and reform programmes in Ukraine seem to be working toward the expansion of large industrial holdings in Ukrainian agriculture owned by foreign entities.

Amid the current turmoil, the World Bank and the IMF are now pushing for more reforms to improve the business climate and increase private investment. In March 2014, the former prime minister ad interim, Arsenij Yatsenyuk, welcomed strict and painful structural reforms as part of the 17 billion dollars IMF loan package, dismissing the need to negotiate any terms.

The IMF austerity reforms will affect monetary and exchange rate policies, the financial sector, fiscal policies, the energy sector, governance, and the business climate.

The loan is also a precondition for the release of further financial support from the European Union and the United States. If fully adopted, the reforms may lead to significant price increases of essential consumer goods, a 47 to 66 percent increase in personal income tax rates, and a 50 percent increase in gas bills. These measures, it is feared, will have a devastating social impact, resulting in a collapse of the standard of living and dramatic increases in poverty.

Although Ukraine started implementing pro-business reforms under president Yanukovych through the Ukraine Investment Climate Advisory Services Project and by streamlining trade and property transfer procedures, his ambition to mould the country to the World Bank and IMFs standards was not reflected in other realms of policy and his allegiance to Russia eventually led to his removal from office.

Following the installation of a pro-West government, there has been an acceleration of structural adjustment led by the international institutions along with an increase in foreign investment, aimed at further expansion of large-scale acquisitions of agricultural land by foreign companies and further corporatisation of agriculture in the country.

The experience of structural adjustment programmes around the developing world foretells that it will increase foreign control of the Ukrainian economy as well as increase poverty and inequality. As Western powers get ready to impose sanctions on Russia for its transgressions in Ukraine, it remains unclear how programmes and conditionalities imposed by the World Bank will improve the lives of Ukrainians and build a sustainable economic future.
 

Janiz

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There continues talk by Kiev and NATO of a Russian invasion, possibly by using 280 white painted vans. :)
Well, when 280 Russian Army trucks painted white, operated by Russian Army and you can't identify those vehicles by markings as they're painted, enter other country's borders uninvited by that country I don't know how to call it. It's either invasion or at least 'intervention' of armed forces abroad to put it in more formal words?
 

jobjed

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Well, when 280 Russian Army trucks painted white, operated by Russian Army and you can't identify those vehicles by markings as they're painted, enter other country's borders uninvited by that country I don't know how to call it. It's either invasion or at least 'intervention' of armed forces abroad to put it in more formal words?

When one can't differentiate between military trucks and civilian semi-trailers, I don't know what to call it. It's either ignorance or just plain blindness.
 

Janiz

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When one can't differentiate between military trucks and civilian semi-trailers, I don't know what to call it. It's either ignorance or just plain blindness.
Well, I'll now call you blind or ignorant. Have you seen this footage?

[video=youtube;X72AmOyFN-M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X72AmOyFN-M[/video]​

First uploaded by a Russian soldier on VKontakte. Now his account is deleted. If you'd like I can write you where he serves but that won't tell you a single thing as I doubt you know a thing about geography of those places.
OK, so what you should notice on this video? Still partly painted trucks. You should also notice on what color they were painted before. Well, the second important thing you should notice are those black register plates. You probably know a thing or two about Russian ones as you aren't blind or ignorant and can surely tell which painted white Kamaz TIR was military vehicle before and which one was a civilian one. Well, others mught not notice the difference so I'll use Russian wikipedia page for this one (
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). As you can read there (as I assume you understand Russian language just as ignorant human being like me do) those black plates are 'installed on cars, trucks, trailers, motorcycles, special equipment and weapons belonging to military units'. Now a fast change of plates to civilian which you can see in the hands of that 'driver' on the picture below and we're off to Ukraine! You can even notice army green paint inside the trucks.

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So, I advice you to refrain from writing about other people being 'ignorant' or 'blind' in the future because you can make a fool of yourself sometimes.
 

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Sputnik

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When one can't differentiate between military trucks and civilian semi-trailers, I don't know what to call it. It's either ignorance or just plain blindness.
:D it's funny! Russia will invade through Ukrainian checkpoints :D while Ukraine don't control 100+ km of border between Russia and Ukraine, and no need to say that Border guards(Ukrainian) will check every car from this convoy :D

some opinions:
With regard to the prospects for the conflict in Ukraine, the self-defense forces in Donbass likely do not have the capability to win. Kiev will simply outlast the republic’s fighters. Kiev’s military operation is improving in terms of quality and management, military experience is increasing, the equipment is getting better, and the morale of the personnel is building up. It is a natural process for any fighting army. The leaders of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, on the other hand, have not demonstrated a lot of skill in military operations or state building. And this is understandable to some extent when we remember that the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics movement was basically improvised as oligarch Rinat Akhmetov tried to pressure the new Kiev officials. Both Akhmetov and Moscow soon lost control of this process. The level of political and social support for the Novorossiya project in Donbass and the Lugansk Region remains limited and will be declining even further with more military setbacks. Novorossiya has lasted this long mainly because of factors that could not be predicted, such as the surprisingly good military skills of the field commanders, especially Igor Strelkov.

Ukraine still has many mobilization resources. Apparently, a third wave of conscription just initiated by Kiev will recruit up to 50,000 people, if not more. Due to the loss of many trained pilots, the air force will not be as intense as before, but this could be compensated for by the artillery units. A possible fuel and ammunition shortage will occur only after three to five months when the most intense phase of the military operation is over.

There are, however, factors that will prevent the government forces from easily defeating the self-defense fighters. First, the Ukrainian army does not have sufficient personnel for efficient control of a territory with six million people. Second, military operations are taking place in mostly urbanized areas, which is difficult for offensive maneuvers. In an urban environment, even scarce and poorly equipped forces can stand up against a much stronger opponent for a longer time. Kiev immediately pulled together all of its technical and human resources. Therefore, the conflict in eastern Ukraine escalated quickly. The ambitious mobilization by Ukraine in April and May was partially provoked by Russia’s demonstration of military strength which gave Kiev the false impression of imminent intervention.

The fact is, the most important thing for self-defense fighters is not to win the war but rather not to lose it. If there is no defeat it is already a victory. When the death toll reaches 5,000 to 7,000 people and the GDP falls by 10-12%, we can expect anti-war sentiment and public protest to take center stage in the country. This is usually the strategy of weaker non-government activists when fighting a stronger government machine in any similar conflict.
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Standard MO of World Bank and IMF loans. Loans that can't realistically be repaid (the best kind of loans for turning paper into physical) => privatization of profitable public assets like mines, utilities, factories (seizure of collaterals) => increased cost of living for citizens => more loans => repeat as necessary.
 
For those who don't know Russian, just to show you how "fluid" is the situation:

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at 1947 of Moscow time says "Strelkov"
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was heavily wounded

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at 1956 of Moscow time says the above is "a fantasy" (my translation)

but
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at 2022 of Moscow time confirms the original claim

Central European media normally regurgitate info available at those three "established" servers (and on this particular occasion at least two of them followed this development in their on-line reporting; by the way, I don't watch TV) ... oh, and don't ask me what's really happened :)
 
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