thunderchief
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Tubes are here but missiles are not
. Missile is simply not finished yet .Full article:
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Tubes are here but missiles are not
. Missile is simply not finished yet .Full article:
by78
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Does anyone know when Barak-8 issues will be resolved? The missile is already in service with Israel, so the problem seems to lie with India. I recall someone here said the ToT process for Barak-8 is very slow going, which begs the question: why doesn't India install a batch of Israeli-made Barak-8s as a stopgap while the ToT issues are being ironed out?
Without the missiles, the ship cannot fulfill her primary mission of air defense, so the Indian navy will essentially receive a crippled ship, a truly appalling prospect. I don't think the Kolkata should suffer any more delays. She has been under construction for over 10 years, which is probably a world record for constructing a destroyer.
Meanwhile the Chinese, by all accounts considered a strategic rival by the Indian establishment, have churned out 052Cs, 052Ds and are making brisk progress toward the Type 055 DDG/Cruiser.
Does India have anything on the drawing board or in the pipeline to compete with the 055? Has the Indian Navy articulated a procurement plan that will be competitive in the medium to long-term?
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Well, comparison threads are deliberately not allows on SDF, especially those between china and India.
But the IN does have a Project 15B planned for after the kolkatas (which are P15A). But I believe only four P15Bs are planned, only displace 8000 tons full, and the keel of the first ship was only laid down October last year.
We don't know how long it will take them to actually get launched and enter service though, given projections of past IN projects all seem to end up getting delayed by years.
But the IN does have a Project 15B planned for after the kolkatas (which are P15A). But I believe only four P15Bs are planned, only displace 8000 tons full, and the keel of the first ship was only laid down October last year.
We don't know how long it will take them to actually get launched and enter service though, given projections of past IN projects all seem to end up getting delayed by years.
Naval Technology said:
Also being reported now by the US Naval Institute News:
USNI News said:
This is quite impressive news. We know that the Indians have operated aircraft carriers for over 50 years. We also know that they have been training with their Mig-29Ks for some time and stood up their operational squadron last year. Apparently over the last 3-4 months they have worked hard, without a lot of fanfair, on deploying 16 aircraft to the carrier and have now deployed it...including night operations capability.
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by78
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Yet another mishap...
Two sailors, welders hurt in navy ship blast
Mumbai: Two sailors and two dockyard civilians reportedly suffered superficial burns on their hands and faces following a minor explosion in a boiler inside the engine room of INS Ganga, a frigate Godavari-class vessel, on Friday.
This is the seventh mishap involving Indian Navy warships this year and 13th since 2010.
The worst of them involved INS Sindhurakshak, a Kilo-class submarine, which sank at its moorings in the Mumbai dockyard
following a series of explosions last August.
The blasts on INS-Ganga took place around 11.15am when the ship was anchored at the dry dock at Mumbai Naval Dock for a routine maintenance and refit exercise carried out every quarterly, after the vessel returned from patrolling duty last week. Two welders, along with two sailors, entered the vessel's boiler engine room. "The welders carried a welding gun, attached to a gas cylinder. They did not ignite the nozzle of the welding gun but instead had the cylinder on, from which gas leaked inside the room. As they lit the welding gun, the gas accumulated in the closed room exploded with a loud noise," a defence official from New Delhi told TOI.
At the time of incident, 100 crew members were present on INS Ganga. "Bad workmanship and sheer negligence by the two welders led to the incident," the defence official said, maintaining it was a minor incident and a Board of Inquiry won't be set up.
The official pointed out that the loud noise was possibly due to the gas accumulated in a closed room. "There was no fire and no equipment was damaged. The two sailors and the two dockyard workers were taken to INHS Asvini hospital at Colaba, only for a precautionary check-up. They were discharged immediately. The situation is normal," he said.
Two sailors, welders hurt in navy ship blast
Mumbai: Two sailors and two dockyard civilians reportedly suffered superficial burns on their hands and faces following a minor explosion in a boiler inside the engine room of INS Ganga, a frigate Godavari-class vessel, on Friday.
This is the seventh mishap involving Indian Navy warships this year and 13th since 2010.
The worst of them involved INS Sindhurakshak, a Kilo-class submarine, which sank at its moorings in the Mumbai dockyard
following a series of explosions last August.
The blasts on INS-Ganga took place around 11.15am when the ship was anchored at the dry dock at Mumbai Naval Dock for a routine maintenance and refit exercise carried out every quarterly, after the vessel returned from patrolling duty last week. Two welders, along with two sailors, entered the vessel's boiler engine room. "The welders carried a welding gun, attached to a gas cylinder. They did not ignite the nozzle of the welding gun but instead had the cylinder on, from which gas leaked inside the room. As they lit the welding gun, the gas accumulated in the closed room exploded with a loud noise," a defence official from New Delhi told TOI.
At the time of incident, 100 crew members were present on INS Ganga. "Bad workmanship and sheer negligence by the two welders led to the incident," the defence official said, maintaining it was a minor incident and a Board of Inquiry won't be set up.
The official pointed out that the loud noise was possibly due to the gas accumulated in a closed room. "There was no fire and no equipment was damaged. The two sailors and the two dockyard workers were taken to INHS Asvini hospital at Colaba, only for a precautionary check-up. They were discharged immediately. The situation is normal," he said.
by78
General
I don't think so.
Of course, our navy does experience mishaps from time to time, an occasional grounding here, an engine room fire there, and even a dry dock fire totaling a SSN. That said, given the unmatched operational tempo and the sheer number of ships, the U.S. Navy has a fairly decent safety record.
The Indian navy, on the other hand, does have a deserved reputation for poor safety standards and professionalism.
Can you name another operator that has lost a Kilo to accidents? Hint: there is none.
Quite right. It is a disgrace if a Kilo class submarine is lost.
Hardly an issue if another class sinks ... but Kilo. No.. Never.
Since the year 2000, there have been twenty-seven major naval incidents involving submarines from: ten American submarines, six Russian, five British, two Canadian, one Chinese, one Indian, one Australian, and one French.