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Han Patriot

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Well Babur aka the founder is a descendants from Timur Khan who is in turn a descendants of Genghis Khan.
He is wearing the Mongol Y collar costume derived from Hanfu. Even the Manchu qipao was an adaptation of the Han Y collar by pulling it up and putting on buttons for Calvary. The Manchu hairstyle was also created for the same reason, you see these semi bald hairstyles with Mongols and Samurais too, just different variations
 

Wrought

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Small steps, I guess.

“A certain step has already been taken, perhaps a slight bow to China. We know that the Chinese embassy left Lithuania; they proposed establishing a charge d'affaires office, but we refused. [...] Now, I am probably not revealing a big secret, as Lithuania has proposed that at the current stage, it agrees to establish that charge d'affaires office,” Motuzas told Žinių Radijas.

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A potato

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He is wearing the Mongol Y collar costume derived from Hanfu. Even the Manchu qipao was an adaptation of the Han Y collar by pulling it up and putting on buttons for Calvary. The Manchu hairstyle was also created for the same reason, you see these semi bald hairstyles with Mongols and Samurais too, just different variations
Which is funny because western media has been pushing the other away around aka hanfu actually came from Mongols.

Clearly calling Chinese New Year, Luner New Year, is not enough. The west has politicize the hanfu by saying it actually came from Mongols.




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Puss in Boots

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Without removing the "Taiwan representative office" Beijing decided to move in?

More timidity once again.
This is a measure taken by China to downgrade diplomatic relations with Lithuania after tensions escalated. Lithuania had previously opposed this approach, and this current situation represents an attempt by Lithuania to ease tensions with China. Why do you see this as a sign of Chinese weakness?
It seems to me that your understanding of diplomacy is limited to only two states: either friendship or war. You lack any neutral stance whatsoever, and this kind of thinking is extremely naive!
 

tamsen_ikard

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This is a measure taken by China to downgrade diplomatic relations with Lithuania after tensions escalated. Lithuania had previously opposed this approach, and this current situation represents an attempt by Lithuania to ease tensions with China. Why do you see this as a sign of Chinese weakness?
It seems to me that your understanding of diplomacy is limited to only two states: either friendship or war. You lack any neutral stance whatsoever, and this kind of thinking is extremely naive!
If China "entirely" removed its embassy, essentially soft broke diplomatic relationship, what made them re-establish diplomatic contact by establishing a diplomatic mission once again?

What has Lithuania done to "meaningfully" change what was wrong with its approach before?

Did they change the name of the "Taiwan Representative Office"?

Did they downgrade it by forcing it to move to a different city?

What have they done?

All I see is a statement by the new PM that they might have made a mistake by allowing Taiwan rep Office. That's it.

So, Lithuania will not accept Chinese protest and remove the Taiwan Rep Office. But Beijing decided to move back in anyway.

This is a timid move by China. They are giving rewards without meaningful action. They are allowing dual recognition of Taiwan and China by moving back in to a country that has a "Taiwan Represntative office".
 

Tse

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Mughal empire also ruled a pretty much united indian subcontinent for centuries.
Hi sorry this is not correct. Central-south India, the Deccan Sultanates, were conquered by Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb only in 1687. At the same time, the Marathas also declared Hindu independence in the Deccan region (1681), and kept fighting until the Mughals were driven out of South India in 1707. Even if we stretch the definition of 'rule', the Mughals ruled in South India from 1687 to 1707. The previous case of someone conquering both north and south (Muhammad bin Tughlaq) was very similar in how incomplete and short-lived it was. The only case before that was the Mauryan Empire but that was also incomplete and only slightly longer-lived.
 

AssassinsMace

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Bruh, so at this simulation the Europeans played the most obvious card - that they didn't have because US already played it - and their Chinese player then also played the most obvious move and it was game over.

You could put me as the Chinese player and I could come up with more creative cards than that. Suppose China approves another batch of dual use goods to Russia like those golf buggies? Suppose China opens up the nascent Qianfan/Guowang for Russians to use with their Geran drones?

Yes all Europe has and is hoping on this still being in play in the world...


Watching the likes of Marco Rubio in wonder over being in the Great Hall of the People only confirms the West's, especially the right, ignorance of what's going on in the world. They don't believe China can have nice things and instead want to believe that Chinese have only dirt roads and live in straw huts.


Take a look at the critics at home who say they were against Trump's war with Iran but now are criticizing the deal to end the war. The US started the war and even they think somehow the end of the war has to come under terms in the US's favor. Just like Europe thinking they can experiment on undermining China but when it does turn out in their favor, they expect everything to go back to normal like nothing ever happened. What European tech do they think they have that they won't sell to China because of the US that they think China is dependent on that they can use as leverage?

It's a joke how Europeans are lumping Trump in with Putin and Xi when Trump is doing what the West has always done. When the West complains that China is working on undermining the Western world order... why not? They want a system where only a slither of the world, themselves, has all the money and power. Their system was designed to do the very thing they're worried that China will employ on them. The US has a stranglehold on any Western tech so they can use as leverage and choke off if need be to any country that doesn't blindly obey. That's what their rule of law means and why they always bring it up when it comes to China. They have the final say on anything if you want to have what they have. That's why they were against China creating it's own technological ecosystem. No one needs to have what they have with China as an alternative.

Europe needs China to buy their overcapacity but they want to play this lie that China needs them more. If China is all negative for Europe, then why don't they completely cut-off from China as decoupling promises? What Europe is worried about is their plot to decouple with China has backfired. Deny China from buying your technology and China will make their own alternative. They think if the Chinese could, they would've done it already, so since they haven't... they can't. But then at any point if that were happening, like right now, they would be crying in alarm. That's what's happening. They think they can get in front of a microphone and magically think they can just declare de-risking instead of decoupling because they still need China to buy from them and voila… and that makes all the difference. They think they're so clever that the Chinese will fall for it because they have European romanticism of the past on their side.


 

Puss in Boots

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If China "entirely" removed its embassy, essentially soft broke diplomatic relationship, what made them re-establish diplomatic contact by establishing a diplomatic mission once again?

What has Lithuania done to "meaningfully" change what was wrong with its approach before?

Did they change the name of the "Taiwan Representative Office"?

Did they downgrade it by forcing it to move to a different city?

What have they done?

All I see is a statement by the new PM that they might have made a mistake by allowing Taiwan rep Office. That's it.

So, Lithuania will not accept Chinese protest and remove the Taiwan Rep Office. But Beijing decided to move back in anyway.

This is a timid move by China. They are giving rewards without meaningful action. They are allowing dual recognition of Taiwan and China by moving back in to a country that has a "Taiwan Represntative office".
The purpose of the chargé d'affaires office is to serve Chinese citizens still in Lithuania. Arbitrarily severing all relations between the two countries is irresponsible and politically naive. China has not made a comeback; this is merely the official implementation of measures to downgrade diplomatic relations with Lithuania.
You are very keen on outwardly displaying a tough stance, but in fact, such behavior is considered naive in international relations. It essentially tells others that you have no other means of punishing the country in question (and even incidentally, your own citizens) than this superficial approach. You should gain a deeper understanding of the methods China uses to discipline Lithuania, instead of constantly clamoring that China should do more and be more ruthless.
 
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