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A potato

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I'm all for Euros getting "tough" on China. People might make fun of Trump starting a fight with everyone, but at least Trump also knows when to TACO. Europe picking a fight with everyone just means they're going to get gang-r*ped, and that's exactly what Europe deserves.
It does reinforce to the Chinese public that the west will be hostile no matter what so we might aswell use this opertunity for europe to weaken themselves and China would step in and impose a century of humiliation on Europe as payback for the China century of humiliation.
 

manqiangrexue

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And people here thought Europe would bow down to China just cause of economic hardship. Europe is much more anti-China than even US

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When will Chinese stop fawning for Macron and start ousting french fashion brands?
This is pretty funny. It's not a national level issue; it's a mall owner level issue. Essentially, that mall suffered an exodus of other French (and European) brands because they all realized they can't compete with Shein and their luxury image wasn't enough to protect them, (which it used to be against cheaper Chinese clothes). This really shows how high quality Chinese clothing manufacturing has become; 10+ years ago, my mom ordered a box of clothes from China and they all looked great in the photos but were unwearable rags in person. From that day on, she does not buy clothes without trying them in person. If these clothes at Shein were notably worse than the luxury brands, they would have nothing to worry about because people are there to pay money to look good and previously, they could not do that with cheap Chinese clothes. This event shows me that they left out of desperation and inability to compete when people realized that they can look just as good for much less with China's Shein.

That said, if China wanted to press it, we can get a list of these brands and make them public in China so they get the Dolce&Gabbana treatment. But here, I kinda understand them a bit; they literally cannot survive next to Shein. If you ran a Chinese bubble tea and dessert shop and suddenly a Mixue pops up next to you, you too will end up telling the building manager that it's either them or us.
 
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AssassinsMace

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It's funny because the propaganda narrative in the US is China is laughably militarily inexperienced but somehow Europe is alarmed China is training Russian troops against Ukraine? I thought Ukraine was winning the war. How about the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare game has a part glorifying ROK special forces. Since when has South Korea has had experience in war? The last time they were overrun by the North where the US had to come rescue them to only then for them to run scared from Chinese peasants. Johnny Somali was sucker punched by a reported South Korean Navy Seal. Are they equivalent to US Navy Seals? Was he trained by the US...? And now the US military is being embarrassed by Iran to which they're accusing China of assisting them with its never used before new military tech that is defeating US proven military tech.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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And people here thought Europe would bow down to China just cause of economic hardship. Europe is much more anti-China than even US

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When will Chinese stop fawning for Macron and start ousting french fashion brands?
I can only say that your proposed solution and remedies are very barbarian, jingoistic, and Western-like in character. If China had acted this way since Deng Xiaoping’s time, its developmental and economic rise would never have been possible.
If some segment of the French business or merchant class wants to implement discriminatory rules against Chinese companies like SHEIN — a business that does not bring any meaningful qualitative advantage in terms of geo-economic or geopolitical power — then let the French enjoy their “superior” fashion.
Last I checked, Mistral (the French AI company) is the only somewhat competitive EU-based AI model in the current landscape. As someone pointed out on this forum (or perhaps on Twitter), if the EU fails to develop its own full AI stack, all this talk of “AI sovereignty” will remain just talk. When — not if — the U.S. eventually pulls the plug on its proprietary closed models (as we’ve already seen with Claude Fable 5), it will place the EU even further behind than it already is.
Fashion is not chips. It is not renewable energy, rare earths, advanced manufacturing, R&D, top engineering universities, or STEM graduates.
 

sndef888

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I can only say that your proposed solution and remedies are very barbarian, jingoistic, and Western-like in character. If China had acted this way since Deng Xiaoping’s time, its developmental and economic rise would never have been possible.
If some segment of the French business or merchant class wants to implement discriminatory rules against Chinese companies like SHEIN — a business that does not bring any meaningful qualitative advantage in terms of geo-economic or geopolitical power — then let the French enjoy their “superior” fashion.
Last I checked, Mistral (the French AI company) is the only somewhat competitive EU-based AI model in the current landscape. As someone pointed out on this forum (or perhaps on Twitter), if the EU fails to develop its own full AI stack, all this talk of “AI sovereignty” will remain just talk. When — not if — the U.S. eventually pulls the plug on its proprietary closed models (as we’ve already seen with Claude Fable 5), it will place the EU even further behind than it already is.
Fashion is not chips. It is not renewable energy, rare earths, advanced manufacturing, R&D, top engineering universities, or STEM graduates.
Europe is hopeless. I will enjoy watching them collapse into irrelevancy
 

Racek49

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We simply need to start viewing people like Kallas as comedians and nothing more, just an extra bit of humor in your daily news digest.
Mrs. Kallas' stupidity has already crossed all limits even in the otherwise rather weak-minded EU leadership. So there is loud talk about her dismissal or the abolition of her position. Interestingly, her parents were prominent representatives of the communist party. Yes, it is a fairly widespread phenomenon when most management suddenly improves after a regime coup.
 
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