Shenyang next gen combat aircraft (?J-XDS)

Deino

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According to some people, the new prototype may have changed the engine from the vector version of WS-10 to the vector version of WS-15.

Exactly my fist idea after I read you comment mentioning the silver ring (typical for the WS-10) and now an all black nozzle (similar to the WS-15.

... let me play around with it a bit!
 
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PS: I know it's no proof at all, but it could be an explanation and especially the clearly longer and larger nozzles are another hint towards an engine change!

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I'm not sure how much of the differences are attributable to actual real changes and how much is due to AI upscaling effects.


I think formalizing it in a way that is easy to digest and even just acknowledging those differences as if they might be real, is potentially risky if it ends up being that the "changes" are just a reflection of AI.
 

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I'm not sure how much of the differences are attributable to actual real changes and how much is due to AI upscaling effects.


I think formalizing it in a way that is easy to digest and even just acknowledging those differences as if they might be real, is potentially risky if it ends up being that the "changes" are just a reflection of AI.


Which is precisely my point, and frankly, since I don't know enough about AI and its automatic image processing – in Germany we would call it "Verschlimmbesserungen" (aka making something worse while trying to improve it) – the constant question is: Would an automatic AI-enhancement result in such clearly larger & longer nozzles if not intentionally manipulated? Or are such obvious changes are a clear hint of an intentional manipulation?

And yes, AI is currently holding us hostage—in more ways than one!
 

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Which is precisely my point, and frankly, since I don't know enough about AI and its automatic image processing – in Germany we would call it "Verschlimmbesserungen" (aka making something worse while trying to improve it) – the constant question is: Would an automatic AI-enhancement result in such clearly larger & longer nozzles if not intentionally manipulated? Or are such obvious changes are a clear hint of an intentional manipulation?

And yes, AI is currently holding us hostage—in more ways than one!

Well, I think sometimes it's better to not post about things or make comparison images in the first place, and to just actively ignore things rather than to signal boost them.


Making comparison images = risk, because images are easy to download, share and republish on places like twitter or other social media, meaning it is often better to avoid making comparison images or charts because of ease of it "escaping containment" and having others without the creator's own caution, repost it with misleading context

Posting on twitter = risk, because if the phrasing of things is not done very carefully, it leads to people walking away with the wrong impression. If there is a language barrier it makes things more difficult too. That is why it is best to avoid asking questions on twitter or trying to "crowdsource" questions on twitter. Things being asked about here on SDF or trying to brainstorm here is a bit better because generally speaking it is harder to "escape containment".
 

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Would it be possible to add the flexible skin from the J-36 and new J-20s on the wingtips to block the exposed flat surfaces when they’re moving? They may not move as much in high speed flight so the skin wouldn’t need to stretch very much. But low speed would be a problem. I wonder how the stealth penalty would be as opposed to canards
 
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