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[AssassinsMace]

Isn't there some kind of clause that you can't reveal that you were paid to do it and have to present it as your own opinion? Otherwise, it's kinda like athletes/celebrities/models driving a sponsored car but saying it's the ugliest piece of shit they ever saw and wouldn't go near it if they weren't paid. That's actually damage to the company instead. If these people are coming out saying they were paid, I'm thinking it's because the position has become so stupid that they need to disown it or risk reputational damage greater than what they might have to pay back in damages.

They don't have to. That's the tangled web of Western deniability. I remember a while ago I posted in this forum an article from a simple wine journalist. At the time there were all these articles saying the same thing as if it was a bunch of journalists investigating and all confirmed what was happening was true. This simple wine journalist decided for himself to see if this were true which was there was outrage in France that Chinese were buying up all the French vineyards. So he goes to France and starts asking around if this was true. He found that no Chinese were buying French vineyards and only found one who said if that were happening he would have a problem with it. So how did multiple journalists write the same thing that turned out to be wrong? That's the trick of Western journalism to prevent themselves from being sued for lying. They write about what someone else wrote noting it in their article because then all will be blamed on the original for getting it wrong. That's what happened. They loved the conclusion hence why they perpetuated the lie. They didn't care if it was true but overall it says there is nothing that prevents them from lying and doing shady things. They want people to believe so no one doubts what they write.

 

[Rank Amateur]

@tphuang

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I haven't listened to the episode yet, being still in the weeds of Annibale's Operation Barbarosssa-sized series of episodes on Operation Barbarossa, but I'll get there.

War Nerd, wow. Talk about a blast from the past (and also the present, I see). Reminds me of when I was reading The eXile "back in the day." I'll have to give it a listen.

 

[pmc]

From my humble understanding, the issues you mentioned are still within the range we can endure. To a certain extent, this is the country strategically shaping its external image. There is an old Chinese saying, endure hardships and bide one’s time.
Certain strengths cannot be hidden, among which military strength is exactly the core topic discussed on this forum. Since our real strength cannot be concealed, we have to conceal our edge in soft power. Keeping a low profile and appearing amiable is a reluctant move, yet it works effectively.

However, there are some foolish people who cannot comprehend our goodwill and regard our restraint as cowardice. Such people will always exist and cannot be avoided. What you expect will never happen before we achieve full victory.

As for privilege, it falls into two categories. The first took shape in specific historical periods, stemming from slack governance. Universities were required to meet quotas for international student ratios. Back when our national strength was insufficient to attract talents naturally, extreme measures were adopted to secure foreign student enrollment. This situation has now been curbed and is no longer ongoing.

The second is the exchange of power and interests. Many privileged individuals are offspring of influential figures with shared interests. This is an inevitable privileged phenomenon. Arrogant and domineering elites exist both at home and abroad, so we ought to treat this matter rationally.

When it comes to Russia, its current educational standard is nowhere close to that of the Soviet era. Many people are uneducated and ignorant. They are narrow-minded, blindly believe force conquers all, and constantly overestimate themselves, daring to take on formidable forces recklessly. They always pick on humble Chinese people, which is utterly unforgivable.

Such sentiments are restrained under the grand national strategy, which is understandable. Nevertheless, people’s true feelings deserve to be voiced, for everyone has dignity.

lol. Russia has long left Soviet in dustbin and far beyond anything Soviet can dream off. Russia has highest exposure to Turkey and Royal Kingdoms and these Royal Kingdoms observe every step and these things i presume relayed back.
Royal Kingdoms were managing migrants and pilgrims several times greater than there own population for decades so they put systems in place for measuring character and skills. Never under estimate the Royals. They have solely won the previous Cold War.

This 2007. do you know what Honor and Dignity mean when ruling over an Islamized Society?.

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Ramzan Kadyrov was awarded honor and dignity

This very small part of Putin speech yesterday to i think to Mechanical engineers. He is saying that people fighting in Ukraine are quickly finding solutions (highly innovative) and understand what fighters need ( pro-active management). This is that new Elites Putin want to impose on Society. I will let you guess who these people are and when they become majority than you will see that true techno force of Russia since most of them are in schools now. before those take responsibility he want society to change.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2054955270162264257

 

[zhaovicher]

Right, they are forgiven because even though they were evil in the past, they are good today. That is the whole point of forgiveness; if they were never evil, you would need none. Remember that the past is the past... for all countries including Japan if they turn themselves around. All the people who perpetrated crimes, all those who suffered... and basically dead already. If you allow this to poison our relatioship with Russia today, then you are only setting us up for another century of humilation as you push Russia to the side of the US and EU all against China. There no powerful countries in the world that have never wronged China; be less picky with your allies.

People only live in the now and construct the future. Only a fool remains on his knees over the past.

LMFAO damn, you suck at debating! Your answer to the grand scheme of Sino-Russian cooperation is 2 white people (I don't know if they are Russian/American/whatever) in the park are racist to Chinese people? LOL Try MUCH MUCH harder. I don't care in the slightest.

You go stew to death in your hatred. We the Chinese people forgive and move on to friendship with Russia.

I'm not your bro. I'm Russia's bro.

Who are you talking about, Trump kissing ass in China? China and Russia are truly partners with no master or subservient.

Geopolitics is not your imagination. Russia does business with the India and Vietnam; it funds North Korea but that is also a Chinese ally. There is nothing there that is underhanded against China.

Your premise is wrong. The Chinese public hold very positive feelings towards Russia and Russians.

Let the Russians speak for themselves. You speak for no one.

"Certain Russians" does not equal all Russians, most Russians, or Russia. You can hate certain Russians for being racist towards China, but you would be stupid to confuse yourself on how the countries align.

Why? You think that China should face a US free from the Ukraine conflict with an EU flush with Russian energy and a Russia with the most nukes in the world? Yes, I think that's what you want.

So we will not allow them to do that to our ally.

You have not provided any reasoning at all, only your wishes and imagination.

Attacking our most critical ally at the crux of a superpower struggle is fundamentally retarded. We are not overly accommodating; we are making deals and alliances that are mutually beneficial. You do not want this because it does not seem by your writing style that you are Chinese at all. I think you want to see the West toast to a Sino-Russian fracture. Luckily, Putin and Xi hold close cooperation and the Chinese and Russian people hold very positive views of each other.

It’s ridiculous to think you can prove you’re Chinese just by putting a Chinese national flag alongside a Singaporean actor’s picture as your background. You keep saying we shouldn’t be overly critical of our allies, but Russia is never China’s ally. China and Russia do not share an alliance relationship, which is an objective fact stated in official diplomatic wording. Stop stirring up meaningless arguments here, it is truly laughable.

Furthermore, you claimed that offending Russia now would leave China humiliated for another century. That is nothing but fantasy. Without China’s continuous support, Russia’s 150 million people would have long been swallowed up by NATO. It simply lacks the strength to bring any humiliation to our country. If we intended to, we could easily bring Russia to its collapse. Russia is merely a buffer zone, and both sides only take advantage of each other. There is no genuine friendship or sincere affection between the two nations.

It is your personal choice to fawn over Russia, yet you cannot represent all Chinese people. What’s more, your identity is questionable. You might not even be a Chinese citizen, and could well be a Russian yourself. Please stop inciting pointless disputes. It is utterly absurd to claim that criticizing a so-called ally at a critical moment of major-power games will bring serious consequences. For a start, I am just voicing my personal opinions on an independent forum, which can never trigger bilateral conflicts. Personal rapport between leaders such as Trump, Putin and President Xi can never represent national diplomatic relations. Such logic is extremely naive and immature.

As a matter of fact, China has never officially recognized Russia as an ally, and Russia will not foolishly keep consuming itself against NATO endlessly. No matter how blindly you fawn on Russia, Russians will never truly respect China. They export resources to China merely out of mutual needs and practical interests, and this fundamental fact will never change. What is more, Russia still occupies Chinese ancestral land up to now, and this historical regret can never be eliminated. Anyone who ignores national history and territorial dignity acts as "han jian", betraying the land and interests of the whole country.

 

[RavenClaws]

I will answer questions from both of you at the same time.

Firstly, when ranking the historical damages and grievances imposed on China by Russia and other Western countries, I personally place Russia in first place, even ahead of Japan. Objectively speaking, the death toll of Chinese people caused by Russia in history is almost on par with that inflicted by Japan. Furthermore, the loss of territory is an everlasting national humiliation. Russia has territorial conflicts with almost all its neighboring countries, yet it never realizes these disputes will leave eternal hatred. Some may say this is their national character, but it does not stop me from disliking this country.

Many Western nations hope China can let go of past hatred. Most of the resentment towards Western countries comes from cultural colonization and economic exploitation. With China’s rise, these past grievances can gradually be resolved. However, the pain of lost territory can never be forgiven.

Next, I will talk about the classic allusion Seven Captures of Meng Huo from the Three Kingdoms period. Russia is never Meng Huo. It cannot be conquered, nor will it ever yield. Every country that has territorial disputes with China has direct or indirect ties with Russia. To outsiders, this may seem remarkable, but as Chinese people, it is truly hard for us to accept.

China has always shown sincere respect to Russia. There are numerous monuments commemorating Soviet heroes across Northeast China, carved with the names and hometowns of Soviet soldiers who sacrificed their lives fighting against fascism. This is China’s sincere gratitude for their aid in the anti-fascist war, yet this kindness cannot cover up historical facts.

Russia is far more than just holding China back. It harbors hidden schemes. It refuses to accept and recognize that China has surpassed it in strength, and constantly creates troubles and obstacles for China. Honestly, I cannot endure such conduct. This country bears bloody historical debts to China, yet it still engages in these petty and calculating moves while receiving help and support from China. I can never develop affection for such a country. I understand the overall national strategic decisions, but this situation is exactly the story of the farmer and the snake. We must always be on guard against it. I firmly believe China’s senior leaders have long seen through all these hidden intentions, since everything is obvious and transparent. China’s top authorities have released the greatest goodwill. Otherwise, these issues would have triggered heated arguments and fierce discussions on domestic online platforms long ago

You need to chill and stop treating country level relations like personal ones.

Russia acts in its interests and any country including China would be foolish to expect otherwise. It always was a militaristic nation hellbent on conquering its neighbours due to its need for warm water ports and lack of strategic natural border defensive terrain.

Right now, China needs less enemies and less headache to achieve the goal of national rejuvenation, economic development and technological breakthroughs.
No country, and particularly none of China's neighbours, deserve to be some "100% trust brother allies", not even Pakistan. It's already unhealthy to go through life with this standard held to other people, and completely delusional to think this applies to countries.

Sometimes the fengqing energy is not patriotism but harmful rage. If China actually started swinging the stick and make everyone enemies it would be in a far worse position than the USA, which has Canada, Mexico and two oceans.

Anyway, I personally predict that as China's development surpasses the West, the next Russian leader after Putin will likely re-approach the West and re-orient themselves against China. It would have already happened if not for the Western religious need to make Russia the bad guy and the Ukraine War. Those will be much more difficult times for China.

 

[zhaovicher]

Right, they are forgiven because even though they were evil in the past, they are good today. That is the whole point of forgiveness; if they were never evil, you would need none. Remember that the past is the past... for all countries including Japan if they turn themselves around. All the people who perpetrated crimes, all those who suffered... and basically dead already. If you allow this to poison our relatioship with Russia today, then you are only setting us up for another century of humilation as you push Russia to the side of the US and EU all against China. There no powerful countries in the world that have never wronged China; be less picky with your allies.

People only live in the now and construct the future. Only a fool remains on his knees over the past.

LMFAO damn, you suck at debating! Your answer to the grand scheme of Sino-Russian cooperation is 2 white people (I don't know if they are Russian/American/whatever) in the park are racist to Chinese people? LOL Try MUCH MUCH harder. I don't care in the slightest.

You go stew to death in your hatred. We the Chinese people forgive and move on to friendship with Russia.

I'm not your bro. I'm Russia's bro.

Who are you talking about, Trump kissing ass in China? China and Russia are truly partners with no master or subservient.

Geopolitics is not your imagination. Russia does business with the India and Vietnam; it funds North Korea but that is also a Chinese ally. There is nothing there that is underhanded against China.

Your premise is wrong. The Chinese public hold very positive feelings towards Russia and Russians.

Let the Russians speak for themselves. You speak for no one.

"Certain Russians" does not equal all Russians, most Russians, or Russia. You can hate certain Russians for being racist towards China, but you would be stupid to confuse yourself on how the countries align.

Why? You think that China should face a US free from the Ukraine conflict with an EU flush with Russian energy and a Russia with the most nukes in the world? Yes, I think that's what you want.

So we will not allow them to do that to our ally.

You have not provided any reasoning at all, only your wishes and imagination.

Attacking our most critical ally at the crux of a superpower struggle is fundamentally retarded. We are not overly accommodating; we are making deals and alliances that are mutually beneficial. You do not want this because it does not seem by your writing style that you are Chinese at all. I think you want to see the West toast to a Sino-Russian fracture. Luckily, Putin and Xi hold close cooperation and the Chinese and Russian people hold very positive views of each other.

Now we need to get this message across to the Chinese themselves, because I'm appalled by the scale of Chinese servility toward any Europeans, especially Slavs. I've lived and worked in China for a long time, and the Chinese's fawning over Europeans is simply horrifying and disgusting. A white person walks into a store, gets a discount or a free service, gets into university, gets easier exams, grants, and better dorm conditions than the Chinese. A white person walks down the street, everyone lines up for a photo, gives in to them, gives them preferential treatment, and elevates them in every way. This instills in visiting Russians (I speak from experience in the Russian community) a sense of superiority over the Chinese; they openly mock them online, sling mud at them, and consider them inferior. This will happen until the Chinese gain self-awareness and at least a modicum of self-respect, and finally stop thinking in a colonial style, elevating any person who comes from outside.

Mr manqiangrexue
You quoted numerous remarks, yet none targeted the key points. You even deliberately overlooked vital evidence put forward by the same author. I am convinced that you chose to ignore it intentionally, for it would only bring you embarrassment and awkwardness.

I would like to emphasize once more that I can comprehend your personal behavior of currying favor with Russians. Nevertheless, you have no right to represent all Chinese people, still less stand for China’s strategic direction. I sincerely advise you to change your avatar to the image of Tsar Ivan the Terrible with the double-headed bird. Thank you.

 

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Reminds me of this report:

Why They Don’t Want You Driving a Chinese Car​

Politicians say they have “national security concerns.” In fact, Chinese cars are better and cheaper, and American corporations know they can’t survive market competition.

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It's all so tiresome.
That said I don't think US is going to come out and say they oppose Taiwan independence either. I don't think Trump team is capable of making big deals like that.

For China, the standard answer to the Iran nuclear weapons question should be that China supports a nuclear weapons-free Middle East and Israel should abandon its nuclear weapons too.

Regarding Taiwan:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2055315058008207788

China will get EUV lithography machine before the US gets rare earths.

US Needs Another Decade to Fix $1.2 Trillion Rare Earth Crisis​

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Why would China think twice? The US can't even defeat Iran.

About That Taiwan ‘Thucydides Trap’​

Xi Jinping likes the Greek analogy because he thinks China is the rising power and the U.S. in decline. He might think twice about that.

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[wuguanhui]

Nevertheless, you have no right to represent all Chinese people, still less stand for China’s strategic direction. I sincerely advise you to change your avatar to the image of Tsar Ivan the Terrible with the double-headed bird. Thank you.

Russia Bad! Slava Ukraine!

 

[zhaovicher]

It’s ridiculous to think you can prove you’re Chinese just by putting a Chinese national flag alongside a Singaporean actor’s picture as your background. You keep saying we shouldn’t be overly critical of our allies, but Russia is never China’s ally. China and Russia do not share an alliance relationship, which is an objective fact stated in official diplomatic wording. Stop stirring up meaningless arguments here, it is truly laughable.

Furthermore, you claimed that offending Russia now would leave China humiliated for another century. That is nothing but fantasy. Without China’s continuous support, Russia’s 150 million people would have long been swallowed up by NATO. It simply lacks the strength to bring any humiliation to our country. If we intended to, we could easily bring Russia to its collapse. Russia is merely a buffer zone, and both sides only take advantage of each other. There is no genuine friendship or sincere affection between the two nations.

It is your personal choice to fawn over Russia, yet you cannot represent all Chinese people. What’s more, your identity is questionable. You might not even be a Chinese citizen, and could well be a Russian yourself. Please stop inciting pointless disputes. It is utterly absurd to claim that criticizing a so-called ally at a critical moment of major-power games will bring serious consequences. For a start, I am just voicing my personal opinions on an independent forum, which can never trigger bilateral conflicts. Personal rapport between leaders such as Trump, Putin and President Xi can never represent national diplomatic relations. Such logic is extremely naive and immature.

As a matter of fact, China has never officially recognized Russia as an ally, and Russia will not foolishly keep consuming itself against NATO endlessly. No matter how blindly you fawn on Russia, Russians will never truly respect China. They export resources to China merely out of mutual needs and practical interests, and this fundamental fact will never change. What is more, Russia still occupies Chinese ancestral land up to now, and this historical regret can never be eliminated. Anyone who ignores national history and territorial dignity acts as "han jian", betraying the land and interests of the whole country.

Dear Sir,

I do not recognize China and Russia as allied nations, yet I have never claimed that Russia is inevitably China’s enemy. I merely hold no personal fondness for this nation and its people. Nonetheless, I respect China’s major strategic decision to stand side by side and back-to-back with Russia, and China has never taken any actions that harm Russian people.

Russians ought to regulate their own words and conduct, which is the foundation of mutual respect. Obviously, Vladimir Putin has failed to exercise effective supervision in this regard, which fills me with great indignation. This is merely a public opinion that deserves to be widely heard, and it will never undermine the core strategic goals of the two countries.

If as you mentioned, future Russian leaders shift the country’s orientation toward the West after Putin, China will be trapped in an extremely awkward and difficult situation. Nevertheless, I believe China will manage to resolve the Taiwan question thoroughly before that happens. Once this crucial issue is settled within the optimal time window, everything will move toward a better direction.

Even if the goal is not accomplished, China will not fall into complete passivity. No matter who takes charge of Russia, its leaders are well aware of historical lessons. Even if Russia fully aligns itself with the West, it will never gain genuine acceptance from Western powers. Should China decline, Russia will inevitably face encroachment and disintegration as well. I am convinced no Russian leader would allow their nation to end up in such a perilous predicament, so I do not hold the same concerns as you.

 

[zhaovicher]

I heard Trump unilaterally declared another great victory for himself, claiming to have secured massive orders for Boeing planes and aircraft engines. But from what China has stated, it seems these are only purchase intentions—no actual contracts have been signed. Does anyone know the details? I’d like to discuss this further.

In my view, if China were to sign any major deals like that without getting any real, substantial benefits in return, that would be a tactical failure.

As for soybeans and other agricultural products—they’re mainly used as alternative feed for livestock, after all. Signing those deals is understandable and acceptable.