The War in the Ukraine
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Russian debt defaults are surging, with a quarter of the bond market at risk, while Putin hides in bunkers fixated on his war instead of the economy
Putin says he thinks Ukraine conflict 'coming to an end'
The twisted web they weave...............
Regards,
Putin says he thinks Ukraine conflict 'coming to an end'
The twisted web they weave...............
Regards,
This has been on repeat like "Russia will run out of missiles and tanks next month" since 2022, though
The Europeans are even more radicalized and pro-war right now. The ukrainians are very much pro-war. They think they have the upper hand.
So the only way Russia gets peace is if they make major concessions. Likely withdrawal will be demanded.
I think we are looking at the defeat of Russia at this point. If Putin is asking for peace, he is asking to surrender.
Here is the full statement. You can decide for yourself with full context if the war is actually “coming to an end” as every article and headline is quoting.
manqiangrexue
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Even if Russia ended the conflict as it stands, they still took 20% of Ukraine. That is a victory for Russia and a defeat for Ukraine. Also, they didn't ask for any peace according to the post above.
The key is "they think", it is vastly different from "they have". The CNN article is painting an image of drowning western aliance trying to grab any straw, the "hint". Just like China has been "collapsing" for decades in western minds, Russia would be "hinting surrender" in western minds for decades to come.
What makes you think that Russia is interested in EU's wishful peace? There is a wellknown Chinese saying "战场上得不到的东西，谈判桌上也休想得到。" meaning "nothing can be gained from the negotiation table if it can not be gained from the battel field." EU can demand whatever they want but it will remain a wet dream if they can't move the front line in their favor. I am sure both Russians and rational Europeans have something similar in their dictionary.
Putin's peace is different from EU's peace.
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The real problem now in Ukraine is that has become a grinding low intensity conflict that both sides in all fairness are fighting in their borders. So is not a long range overseas conflict for Russia or ukraine. The situation for Ukraine even if the West is helping Ukraine, is grinding more Ukraine than is grinding Russia, just by looking at the collapse of economic activity in Ukraine. As a low intensity conflict my guess is not costing as much to the Russians as much as some think.
Ukraine is trapped in a situation that is not only have to grind themselves defending their territory so Russia doesn't take more of it but also trying to take territory held by the Russians to prove themselves that this conflict is worth fighting. Russia manufacturing capacity and economy seems mostly intact. Yes, Ukraine is getting a lot of stuff from the West but the lack of industrial capacity is pretty big problem. The US because Israel is now trapped in the Middle East in a conflict with Iran so is very likely that support from the US is going to collapse, and because this war, energy dependent Europeans are heading to rough times. Russia is mostly energy independent.
Is not being pro this or anti taht or defending that or this country actions, that is the most probable reality
Ukraine is trapped in a situation that is not only have to grind themselves defending their territory so Russia doesn't take more of it but also trying to take territory held by the Russians to prove themselves that this conflict is worth fighting. Russia manufacturing capacity and economy seems mostly intact. Yes, Ukraine is getting a lot of stuff from the West but the lack of industrial capacity is pretty big problem. The US because Israel is now trapped in the Middle East in a conflict with Iran so is very likely that support from the US is going to collapse, and because this war, energy dependent Europeans are heading to rough times. Russia is mostly energy independent.
Is not being pro this or anti taht or defending that or this country actions, that is the most probable reality
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Russian FAB-500 bombs strike the temporary deployment site of the 106th Territorial Defense Brigade of Ukraine, located in an abandoned building. The video was filmed in the village of Novaya Sloboda in the Sumy region of Ukraine. The FAB-500 bombs were dropped by a Su-34 fighter-bomber. The bombs destroyed the Ukrainian temporary deployment site.