2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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Serb

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I have said before and I will say it again. Small and middle powers should be aware of their own relevance and limitations(I watch video of former Singapore foreign minister who said the same thing). You should not have an open/public hostile relationship with any superpower. In fact you should be trying to court them and balance it with your own interests . It’s foolish adopting a hostile relationship with any superpower. Since if that superpower decides to disregards all laws and restrain them they will impose heavy blows and destruction to you without suffering as much consequences . So it’s imperative to have level headed and shrewd leaders for middle powers.
in this regard, Iran has failed completely. The results we see today are the culmination of decades of bad decisions and policies which has steamrolled to what we see today. Today most of their Arab neighbors and even Turkey are better off than them(again due to their leaders policies and shrewdness), . Iran has found itself with barely any real ally to even help them (apart from some militias like hezbollah who have been weakened to the point of almost Ireland’s today ). Damn…who could have thought Hamas ill move on October 7 will lead to this(axis of resistance almost destroyed and weakened to this state). It seems like a domino started since that crazy day.
Anyway, this also applies to other small/middle powers in Asia like Philippines who seem to think antagonizing for China for nationalistic/patriotic reasons is a good idea, seems this middle countries haven’t learned anything from Ukraine conflict and how Ukraine is suffering from some decisions she made(despite heavy European support), hopefully Iran’s situation will make them think twice again. Well, at least I understand Philippines and Taiwan leaders , they are doing so since they know the US is behind them and backs them, so I can still give them some leeway(even though I think it’s a misguided policy ) , but I fail to understand what Iran has even been counting on to be honest. In fact , the saving grace for Iran can come from US political landscape where there is strong opposition to any war in Middle East , because if this was 2003 where most American supported such wars and didn’t mind being in it for years then afraid Iran would have been done for. So I think unlike Netanyahu who has strong support at home to deal with Iran once and for all , Trump will want a quick exit due to political reasons

Your supapowa just clearly lost 10+ regional military bases in 5 days, including countless other military assets. For the first time in history. You are clearly living in your own world, so not worth having a serious discussion. The Hormuz Strait was closed literally the first day as well. Thanks to America's low IQ actions, Iran got politically and socially united more than ever. As I said many times, it's the US that would collapse sooner than Iran, in this war, due to internal rotting and polarization (and an apocalyptic amount of debt and other economic problems). You base your whole view on some vibes that America "should win", and ignoring the reality that it is not winning, nor has it had much success with winning in the past against other much weaker adversaries. That's because you base your worldview on movies, American CIA brainwashing media, instead of geography, emerging technology, cost asymmetry, real economic parameters (not artificial exchange rates), instead of fake ones, basic logic.
 
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Tomboy

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An American pilot ejected safely in Basra hosted by tribes and delivered to the Iraqi security force
I don't recognize this tail, does not seem to be a F-15 tail and the insignia isn't that of standard USAF neither does that tail seem to have any unit/serial which most if not all USAF fighters do typically.


Can you provide a source and confirmation on this image?
 

ForcedTrend

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It was bad enough that Donald Trump hasn't been able to explain clearly why he yet again felt he had to attack Iran, and why now. His national security advisor and secretary of state, Marco Rubio, then inadvertently made everything worse by implying that the president wasn't so much leading — in the spirit of America First and Peace through Strength — as following. Worse yet, Trump seemed to be following a foreign power, Israel. Accidentally, Rubio inverted Trump's entire foreign-policy shtick: America Second, Israel First.

Here's Rubio's
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statement: "We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties." That, Rubio said, was the "imminent threat": not an Iranian strike out of the blue (which American intelligence wasn't expecting) but an Israeli strike against Iran, against which Iran would have to retaliate.

In this narrative, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was the one making the primary decisions about war and peace, life and death, while Trump and the American superpower had at best limited agency. Not a good look.

Here is how Senator Angus King, an Independent, put it when
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a Pentagon official the following day: "Have we now delegated the most solemn decision that can be made in our society, the decision to go to war, to another country?" That, King said, was the "breathtaking" meaning of Rubio's slip: "We're going to be taken into a war by the prime minister of another country."

Unsurprisingly, that narrative got under Trump's skin. "If anything, I might have forced Israel's hand," he
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to reporters, without elaborating. Rubio, for his part, appeared mortified to have caused embarrassment to his boss and backpedaled as energetically as he could, with a
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of words that boiled down to: Whatever I said was misunderstood, and what I meant is whatever the president has said, is saying or will say.

But the damage was already done, and in different ways for different audiences.

One audience is Trump's Republican base, which is generally tired of forever wars and no longer as reliably pro-Israel and Zionist as it once was. The president's own MAGA movement subsumes Christian Nationalist elements that are downright anti-Israel, if not anti-Semitic, and want to weaken or sever America's quasi-umbilical link with Israel. Rubio's quote is grist for their mills.

More generally, conservatives have been
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from "dispensationalist" ideologies espoused by
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evangelicals that see American support for Israel as biblically ordained, and toward an American nationalism that sees entanglements in the Middle East as no less problematic than anywhere else. Independents are also
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from Israel, while Democrats have largely done so. Nobody in any of these groups will be reassured by Rubio's version of a casus belli.

The episode also exposes a larger inconsistency in the Trump administration's view of America's alliances. Israel, with its martial prowess, is now
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a "model ally." (That of course reminds other allies, in Europe and Asia, that they are not; Trump has long disdained most of them as free-riders, even if they are now rearming as fast as their welfare budgets allow.)

Even model alliances, however, suffer from a problem called moral hazard. In
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, the term means that smaller allies tend to take bigger risks if they are convinced that the US has their back, thus pulling both into unnecessary wars.
Try this for a thought experiment: Imagine that instead of Israel, which is right to feel existentially threatened by the Iranian regime, the ally in question is Poland, which is equally justified in fearing Russia, or South Korea, which lives in the nuclear shadow of the North. Would Trump be as enthusiastic in going to war against Russia and North Korea if he thought the Poles or South Koreans felt it necessary to strike preemptively?

The confused and mixed signals coming out of the administration about its latest
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send the latest of many terrible messages.

In opening hostilities, the White House ignored international law and the American constitution, which reserves to Congress the right to declare war. The administration didn't even try to make a clear and compelling case to the public why this war had to happen now, or at all. It is now wasting ammo and resources in the Middle East that will be dangerously scarce in other conflict zones. And into this big mess it may have stumbled rather than deliberately stepped.

The bloodcurdling reality may be, as Senator King put it in that hearing, that Rubio inadvertently told the truth.
 

sheogorath

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So they are using JASSM

INDOPACOM: Man, what can I say
So much for total air dominance to the point of using B-52 to drop JDAMs or whatever, lol

mini nuke theory again
It is that guy's obssession
Oh shit when it said Kuwait, I thought they were gonna say that guy shot down 2 more F-15s by "accident"...
The Djinn of Kuwait City is going for the Ace
I don't recognize this tail, does not seem to be a F-15 tail and the insignia isn't that of standard USAF neither does that tail seem to have any unit/serial which most if not all USAF fighters do typically.


Can you provide a source and confirmation on this image?
Its an AI image, the wreck and markings don't make sense.
 

Hindosa

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Woah, that was surprising. Good to see they are better than how us-israel would treat em, Just 1 pilot ?? huh which plane was it?
F15s are two seaters right...?
According to witnesses, the fighter was coming from Iran air space and had been hit over Iran (this is based on statements from witnesses and security forces). Most circulating reports indicate that it was an F-18 fighter jet, I can inform you about Erbil where I live near to the American base and what hilarious situation we lived passed 4 days but Basra is 800Km away from me, all these information is from the Iraqi TV+ FB
 

MMelon

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Great israel doesnt just mean they will expand borders, they dont have numbers of people or the army, it means indirect control mostly, like they do with US, leaders-politics, resources of a country, Jordan is already under Israel rule, so is egypt via usa-proxy.


I think i read this years ago yeah.
But come on, this is delusion. Iraq is destroyed, they dont even control their economy, its handled by US-israel, they just dont care about local politics they are getting what they need.
Lebanon? Even 10 years ago Lebanon was scared and subservient to israel, Syria has been under attack past 10 years.
This isnt imperialistic ambition or wanting to not believe in 'legitimacy' , this is just some official thinking having proxies mean they control the country.
They dont.

Woah, that was surprising. Good to see they are better than how us-israel would treat em, Just 1 pilot ?? huh which plane was it?
F15s are two seaters right...?"
The image looks weird, maybe ai.
His is a 3 year old account whose first post is AI photo propaganda. Totally sus.
 

AlexYe

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, I can inform you about Erbil where
Have heard that Erbil is being attacked by iraqi resistance n iran but more importantly...
Whats the Kurdish situation?

IraqiTv is the source? The image of the plane is def ai, but one with people could be true.
His is a 3 year old account whose first post is AI photo propaganda. Totally sus.
Oh right.. didnt even notice that, Thats hella odd.
 
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