2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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brock

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I never expected Iran to sink a ship unless the stars align, they depleted the CSG AA and got really lucky... but I guess the USN wants to help them if they are going to be "escorting" ships though the strait... This is basically asking someone to commit suicide no? The Iranians we not really targeting USN ships besides some harassment fire to the CSG but having the USN come to the strait is literally offering up our ships to the Iranians on a silver platter. There's just no way they actually go though with this right? There are just some things where even a captain of a ship has to say "no".

Not sure why your allowed to say this without a single fact to back it up? You people come here and say "Iran lost, just give up" and then a ballistic missile hits UAE/Israel 15mins after you posted this. The only thing lost right now are interceptors being wasted left and right.
If Iran still has Submarines and they didn't deploy them anywhere else like around the Suez canal This could be suicide for US navy vessels traveling across Hormuz.
 

doggydogdo

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As a possible signal of UAE's confidence in handling Iranian attacks, it will reopen its stock market tomorrow.

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Public pressure from capitalists to open stock market so they can take money out. If you can't keep your stock market closed for 5 days that's the real problem.


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US strikes on Iranian Shaheds, they are basically striking everything they see. This is super inefficient and they are probably hitting hundreds of decoys. I don't see any of these having engines
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I don’t know how much this contributes to the discussion in this thread, but here’s a POV from someone in the Gulf, specifically the UAE. And yes, just to be transparent, I did use AI to help me formulate and correct what I’m writing here.

I’ll start by saying this clearly: this war is completely on Israel and the US. Israel has been begging for such a war for a long time, pushing and provoking, and everyone treated it like a joke and did nothing about it. They let it fester until we got Trump 1, and now Trump 2.0, and here we are with war in the Gulf. This is not our war. It is 100% on them.

Now about the current situation. Yes, all Gulf countries are being attacked. Yes, some missiles and drones have gotten through. But we are intercepting the majority of them. That’s normal considering we operate sophisticated air defense systems like Patriots, THAAD, Korean M-SAM, Pantsir, and others, and we use fighter jets to defend our airspace as well. Until now, we are safe, and I’m thankful for that. But let’s be realistic. Interceptors will run dry at some point. Stockpiles are not infinite. If this continues long enough, we either won’t be able to defend properly anymore, or we become Ukraine 2.0 — defending key assets while letting other areas be hit. And again, this entire situation is on the US and Israel.

As I see it, the US has abandoned us in the Gulf. I’ve said this for years, even before I was deeply into geopolitics or military affairs. Washington will always prioritize Israel above everyone else, and that’s exactly what we are seeing. They are focused on protecting Israel as always, while we deal with the consequences of decisions made elsewhere.

My view on how to end this war is simple. We need to kick the Americans out and close down those bases. Yes, maybe they brought some safety before, and I acknowledge that. But if Israel is effectively steering decisions in Washington and dragging the entire region into conflicts that are not ours, then those bases bring us more problems than benefits. They make us targets. They bring war to our doorstep. We need them gone completely from all GCC states.

As for Iran, our relationship hasn’t been perfect, but we have never formally gone to war with them, and they have never formally gone to war with us. We have Iranians living among us. We’ve always had trade with Iran. Without the Orange Clown Trump and Satanyahu starting this stupid war, we would have been completely fine, possibly moving back toward more normal relations with Iran. Maybe not perfect relations, but normal, manageable, neighborly relations. Anything is better than war.

So yes, I do think we should kick the Americans out.

Secondly, Israel has brought us nothing but shame, trouble, and problems in the UAE. I believe we should cut relations with Israel and should have never normalized in the first place. We should cut all cooperation with them. Not just because they are Israel, though they are, in my view, the worst, but because they are conducting a Genocide in Gaza and destabilizing the entire region. It is an evil state that should not exist in the MENA region. It is a cancer that keeps spreading conflict and dragging others into it.

Lastly, if everything calms down, I would really like to see the UAE, and by extension the GCC, rethink our military procurement. We are buying extremely expensive Western technology and then being constrained by it from all sides. Political strings, export controls, stockpile limits, dependency during crisis — all of it. We buy the systems, but we don’t fully control the conditions around them.

I want to see the F-16s gone, the helicopters, the tanks, the cargo planes, and so on gradually replaced or diversified away from US dependence. Maybe more Korean systems, even if Korea is still closely aligned with the US. Maybe more European systems. We are buying French Rafales, which are ITAR-free as I understand. Even if some argue about performance comparisons, at least they give us some political breathing room compared to US-made platforms.

The same applies to our most critical systems like air defense. We need alternatives that are not hampered by US political decisions. They keep putting us in difficult positions, limiting stockpiles, prioritizing Israel, and making us look like fools when we are left exposed.

Personally, I would like to see the UAE start buying more Chinese weapons. Over the past few years, I’ve been reading more about China, learning more about their doctrine and worldview, and my perspective has changed a lot. I find myself increasingly aligned with Chinese doctrine and global positioning. They appear to be a more stable partner, a more predictable partner, and a partner focused on trade, infrastructure, and long-term cooperation through things like the Belt and Road Initiative and BRICS+. Expanding procurement to include Chinese air defense systems like the HQ-series, tanks, missiles, radars, or even co-developing systems would give us leverage and autonomy. Massive stockpiles under our own control would matter more than brand names.

Realistically, I doubt such a shift happens soon unless the US presence fundamentally changes. But I hope we at least start thinking in that direction.

And regarding Iran, I’ll add this. I may not fully align with or even like the current Iranian government. But I understand that much of what they are doing — their proxies, their militarization, their regional posture — is driven by survival and a sense of existential threat. There are many countries labeled “dictatorships” that do not behave the way Iran does, and the difference is the level of sustained pressure and threat they face. When a country feels constantly targeted, it hardens. That doesn’t automatically justify everything, but it explains a lot.

For now, we are safe, and I’m thankful for that. But we need to act before it becomes unsafe. We need to negotiate, talk, and de-escalate with Iran based on what their national security officials have indicated. We need to stop being dragged into wars that are not ours.

Pray this all ends.
Inshallah!
 

iewgnem

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I know for a fact that whatsapp, telegram, signal all can be decrypted and read, even deleted messages, without passwords, by law enforcement, outside US and Israel, too. Just an FYI.

Anyway, on the topic, I found this website to be a decent aggregator of what's going on:
iranstrike dot com

Skip the stats, feed is decent for staying on top of things.
I mean it shouldn't really require super high IQ to understand the only non-goverment communication hardware/software that's safe from western backdoor are hardware/software the west absolutely don't want you to use, i.e. Huawei and only Huawei, especially new ones produced after sanctions.
 

texx1

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Even with insurance for the tankers/containerships in the strait, the crew has to be mad to risk their life to dash though the strait for their capital overlords.

I suspect the reason people buy life insurance isn't so they can go ahead and die.

Just like mercenaries in wars, anything is possible with big enough monetary incentives.
 

Tomboy

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If Iran still has Submarines and they didn't deploy them anywhere else like around the Suez canal This could be suicide for US navy vessels traveling across Hormuz.
Iran has 3 Kilo, 1 Fateh and a bunch of midget submarines. Somehow I doubt the midget submarines will accomplish anything, same with the Fateh leaving the only credible deterrence 3 original Kilos. Not great odds for the Iranian navy tbh, would be a miracle if they do indeed manage to hit anything with these submarines.
 

Gloire_bb

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Low altitude flights, attempts to fly outside of any non-destroyed/compromised radar coverage, strike attempts/success like the one the IRIAF claims to having done at gulf oil platforms two days ago... ...all should be very hard to even start. The US/israel bipartite iranian enemy force is vastly different from 1980s iraq, had and have immense quantities of aircraft around the middle east right now. Yet it is not happening much.

Also, we are not much aware of how much actual US/israeli sorties above iran are happening. the notably high tomahawk/drone use is strange. If we take the american/israeli claims, we may suppose they are a lot. but conflicts with some aifield evacuations by the US in the gulf. Also there are some signs a considerable number of airfields and some airbases closer to iran were hit heavily.
Assume that AWACS aircraft operate at safe stand off from Iranian borders - for example, 100 nmi(which would put them out of radius of any operational Iranian SAM other than 373, and this thing is too big to survive).
Given mountainous character of much of Iran, AWACS height limitations and curvature of the Earth - just by working off passive RTR sensors you can plot a "dark" attack run in and out, and you'll be visible only when you'll jump for actual weapon employment (loft for rockets, tack for LACM), which is seconds.

Furthermore, Iran has both reinforced air bases and bases relatively far from most activities - basically, at this point you have to ensure that current cycle of strikes ended and there's no sneaky drone nearby to get caught taxing. You can even launch fighter to ensure safe landing.
 

Anlsvrthng

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I mean it shouldn't really require super high IQ to understand the only non-goverment communication hardware/software that's safe from western backdoor are hardware/software the west absolutely don't want you to use, i.e. Huawei and only Huawei, especially new ones produced after sanctions.
Use stuff w- manufacturing date prior of 2008. no backdoor.
 
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