2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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enroger

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You can act stupidly without ever struggling. See Jai Hind, SCS, Taiwan...

I don't know what part of gulf state being ran as generous welfare states underpinned by imported slave labour is controversial or "western propaganda".

lol, you're talking as if the west is doing them a favor by buying their oil and they should be grateful of it. Someone is always going to buy their oil because it is a necessity, if the monarchies are toppled their citizens will only get more portion of that oil money because no one is buying dozens of Ferrari's and luxury yacht's at a time.

The only ones that should be grateful to the west are the royalties for helping them putting a boot on their citizen's neck, not the people.
 

HereToSeePics

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What I fear the most for China is not anything technical on the paper, but on the level of fundamental philosophy and sociology.

Why I think Islam, Buddhism, Daoism, Marxism are right for the East:

Mod, Can I will write more?

You’ve written enough to derail this news thread for 2 pages. 24 hour reply ban to this thread. Start your own thread in the members club room if you want long form political philosophy discussions.
 

tankphobia

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lol, you're talking as if the west is doing them a favor by buying their oil and they should be grateful of it. Someone is always going to buy their oil because it is an necessity, if the monarchies are toppled their citizens will only get more portion of that oil money because no one is buying dozens of Ferrari's and luxury yacht's at a time.
You could maintain good relations with the West, develope your country and have a good QoL for the citizen.

Or you can be stuck in constant civil wars through sectarian conflict, with the West paying off a friendly local tribe to occupy the oilfields anyways, in this instance NONE of the money goes to the citizens, see Syria/Libya and yes I do see the irony in that in both examples the West was responsible for the outcome.

I think it is pretty clear which outcome normal, sane people would prefer. Moral grandstands are only a good idea if it actually goes somewhere, otherwise you're just dying a pointless death.

But this has gone OT long enough, mods feel free to delete the convo, I will stop it here.
 

obj 705A

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A message to the 50,000 American soldiers in the Middle East: The time to prepare is over, it's time to act!

The commander of U.S. Central Command affirmed that, at the direction of the President of the United States, a mission of profound consequences was underway, and that the time for preparation was over; it was time to act.

As the country transitioned from deterrence to active combat, the commander expressed his pride in the service of soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen, National Guard members, and Coast Guard personnel. He noted that some were stationed in the Middle East, while a significant number had been deployed overseas on short notice, and others had their deployments extended for this vital mission. He emphasized that they represented the strongest and most lethal fighting force the world had ever known, serving their country selflessly and inspiring pride.
He explained that his instructions to the troops were simple: he called on them to be relentless in combat, to maintain their professional identity in the midst of conflict so that their behavior was as professional as their aim, and he urged them to look after their colleagues because the men and women beside them, in front of them, and behind them constitute their source of protection, and he asked them to be the same for each other.
He stressed that they must maintain their resolve because combat is inherently chaotic, and that the coming hours, days, and perhaps weeks will test them amidst noise and confusion, urging them to return to their training, which he described as the best in the world.

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The talk already started about "forever wars" to condition the US public.

Trump: America has unlimited supplies of ammunition and is capable of fighting wars "forever".


Trump: Our stockpiles of medium- and high-grade ammunition have never been higher or better—and as I was told today, we have a virtually unlimited supply of these weapons. Wars can be fought 'forever', and very successfully, with just these supplies (which are better than the best weapons of other nations!). As for high-quality weapons, we have a good supply, but we're not where we need to be. Large quantities of high-quality weapons are being stockpiled for us in faraway countries. Sleepy Joe Biden has spent all of his time and our country's money giving everything to Zelensky! From Ukraine—worth hundreds of billions of dollars—while he's donated a lot of top-quality weapons (for free!).

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Randomuser

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Now that the Strait of Hormuz is closed, I knew that oil would stop being exported and ships would stop entering and leaving the strait.... but I didnt account for the fact that the Gulf states also import a lot of food though the strait apparently?
Does anyone else have more knowledgeable information on how much the gulf states import food? Because I am just realizing this but if they have no oil money and possibly no food... this does not look good at all for the monarchies at all.
Its actually very dangerous to be stuck in Dubai or places like that right now.

They have to worry about bombing and yet their ammo is running out very fast.

But more dangerously is the system is disrupted. Stuff like food and water are said to run out quite fast.

As a citizen you might not be affected by bombs but you will be affected by lack of supplies. And in war this is the real killer.
 

enroger

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You could maintain good relations with the West, develope your country and have a good QoL for the citizen.

Or you can be stuck in constant civil wars through sectarian conflict, with the West paying off a friendly local tribe to occupy the oilfields anyways, in this instance NONE of the money goes to the citizens, see Syria/Libya and yes I do see the irony in that in both examples the West was responsible for the outcome.

I think it is pretty clear which outcome normal, sane people would prefer. Moral grandstands are only a good idea if it actually goes somewhere, otherwise you're just dying a pointless death.

But this has gone OT long enough, mods feel free to delete the convo, I will stop it here.

If you're using the argument that "they should be subservient to the west otherwise the west will just simply rape them" then you should stop blaming people for having a backbone like you did so in your first post.
 

bagi

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If the americans in this specific turn of the american regime, attempt to land somewhere to march to tehran without any form of months long preparations and effort, in a ""win big'" logic and ""western militarism trumps numbers"" logic, the chances of a victory are remote, and its by all considerations under this current context of this war, an adventure. But the italian fascists equally liked adventures.
 
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