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Rafi

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Ultimately Pak power is hardcapped by its level of governance. Pakistan is just a poor country with low HDI. India may be insufferable and overestimate itself, but when compared to Pakistan it's just better governed.

Sort of same thing as Ukraine, you can lose and shatter even whole 1st world, if the medium you rely on is just too weak. As such, limit input to to scale Pakistan can comfortably absorb. Otherwise results will be also Ukrainian.

I’d argue it’s better governed than India, with all its advantages in population, economy head start at independence its unlimited partnership with both the soviet union and the west, it has been largely ineffective in establishing a sphere of influence, and the main reason for this is Pakistan resistance.
 

Gloire_bb

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I’d argue it’s better governed than India, with all its advantages in population, economy head start at independence its unlimited partnership with both the soviet union and the west, it has been largely ineffective in establishing a sphere of influence, and the main reason for this is Pakistan resistance.
Fighting isn't governance, fighting is fighting (and frankly, Pakistan lost early wars that mattered the most, it's prowess v India is a relatively recent Pakistani progress/Indian regress).
Plus, macro metrics: GDP(both nominal and ppp) is >10 times in Indian favour(population is <6 times); I.e. per capita is higher by a factor of nearly two, and "nearly" won't last long as GDP growth is also >2 in Indian favor.

Will it change structurally? India is massively ahead in literacy rate(20 percent points) and secondary education, and this is also relatively recent progress; even Indian backward rergions are now climbing up; for Pakistan, this is just not the case.

This is mostly a India bashing thread(and for a good reason), but it's worth seing that strategic outlook for Pakistan is grim, and situation is where it is largely because of Pakistani nuclear umbrella. Pakistan goes to significant lengths to concentrate and keep few available high level talents where it matters(higher level government, military), but this is where it goes.
Even current military balance is somewhat of a wonder (very cool headed Pakistani execution based on Chinese relationship, together with Indian hubris where Indians apparently don't even bother). But even then, general direction is Pakistan getting overwhelmed.
 

Rafi

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Fighting isn't governance, fighting is fighting (and frankly, Pakistan lost early wars that mattered the most, it's prowess v India is a relatively recent Pakistani progress/Indian regress).
Plus, macro metrics: GDP(both nominal and ppp) is >10 times in Indian favour(population is <6 times); I.e. per capita is higher by a factor of nearly two, and "nearly" won't last long as GDP growth is also >2 in Indian favor.

Will it change structurally? India is massively ahead in literacy rate(20 percent points) and secondary education, and this is also relatively recent progress; even Indian backward rergions are now climbing up; for Pakistan, this is just not the case.

This is mostly a India bashing thread(and for a good reason), but it's worth seing that strategic outlook for Pakistan is grim, and situation is where it is largely because of Pakistani nuclear umbrella. Pakistan goes to significant lengths to concentrate and keep few available high level talents where it matters(higher level government, military), but this is where it goes.
Even current military balance is somewhat of a wonder (very cool headed Pakistani execution based on Chinese relationship, together with Indian hubris where Indians apparently don't even bother). But even then, general direction is Pakistan getting overwhelmed.

I would disagree India is on the path of internal weakness modi successors are likely to be even more insane on Hindu nationalism, Pakistan is really in a good spot, with our partnership with China and overall outlook, you are just too pro India (likely because of your Indian ethnic origin) to see it, Pakistan as middle power has established enough conventional and strategic deterrence to ensure its place in the region.
 

neutralobserver

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Retired Indian Navy pilot back at it, pushing nonsense about the J-35.
Don’t be surprised if/when Eurasiantimes runs articles citing this as source lol. I remember how much propaganda they had spread about JF-17's being grounded.

On a sidenote:

:D

Indians are back at it, maybe these guys are just bored because they don't have any indigenous programs that can rival J35 or any other Chinese Fighter Jet Program. Not sure if they are actually serious or they just want to be trolled.
 

siegecrossbow

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Retired Indian Navy pilot back at it, pushing nonsense about the J-35.
Don’t be surprised if/when Eurasiantimes runs articles citing this as source lol. I remember how much propaganda they had spread about JF-17's being grounded.

On a sidenote:

:D

Indians are back at it, maybe these guys are just bored because they don't have any indigenous programs that can rival J35 or any other Chinese Fighter Jet Program. Not sure if they are actually serious or they just want to be trolled.

It is one thing to boast and brag when your enemy’s assets are relatively untested and another thing altogether when your billion dollar Air Force with crème of the crop planes from Western and Russian fighter jets have been brutally sodomized by them.
 
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zyklon

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US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll just landed in New Delhi to pitch a miserly $93 million American arms package to India.


According to
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, Driscoll is also due to meet Indian External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, which is even more peculiar. Driscoll and Jaishankar are far from counterparts, which suggests that Driscoll has
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been tasked with an agenda beyond the scope of his official portfolio.

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So what is Driscoll — JD Vance's bff from Yale Law School — actually in India to negotiate? ;)
 

siegecrossbow

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"Stuff" (as a noun) and "equipment" are already plural too, but I see SDF posts with "stuffs" and "equipments" all the time. I respectfully suggest that mocking an Indian video for pluralizing "aircraft" as "aircrafts" might be a bit 五十步笑百步.
Yeah but we are just a bunch of random Wumaos in a niche community, not journalists with millions of views and subscriptions. Surely we shouldn’t be measured at the same standards.
 
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