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FriedButter

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wuguanhui said:
Yes, but this is even better, they got Maduro alive.

If China is grabs Lai tomorrow and puts him on trial for treason, you don't think it will encourage the next Taiwanese leader to think very carefully before pissing off the Mainland?
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All it shows is that you don’t understand the conflict in Ukraine. Much less what China desires either. Zelensky is not the government. He is another cog in the system. What Russia wants is a permanent security solution against US expansion. Whoever assumes the president of Ukraine does not solve the underlying Russian problems.

The same point applies to China strategic goals of unification. It is actually beneficial that they remain as leaders. Ukraine hardline allows Russia to give geopolitical excuse to their neutral and friendly partners while pursing their full objectives. The ROC flailing around allows China to normalize big military exercises and to salami slice, which the US/EU are angry about.
 
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RoastGooseHKer

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FairAndUnbiased said:
Yes, US did South Korea a favor, but honestly I don't think a united DPRK would've done too much worse. It would've been a natural Chinese ally and most of all, Taiwan would not be tenable with a hostile Korean peninsula since it can cut Japan off from Okinawa.

If North Korea won the Korean War outright, Taiwan would have been much poorer and would've been liberated maybe in the 1980s or 1990s.
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I beg to differ. The old Kim purged the entire Yan’an faction from the Workers’ Party right after to Korean War. He soon purged the Soviet faction as well after Stalin’s death. Also, the Juche thought replaced Marxist Leninism as North Korea’s core ideology. Finally, even after the great US-China split of 2018, Xi did little to improved ties (which were serious damaged in 2017 when Xi and Trump nominally worked together to rein in DPRK’s nuclear program, whilst DPRK detonated a nuke on day of Hangzhou G20 Summit) with Kim III despite the former now needs the latter’s support in strategic competition against the U.S. In general, Beijing sees DPRK as nothing more than a buffer against the U.S., whilst DPRK sees Beijing the same way Beijing saw the USSR in the 1960s. Pyongyang also has grievances on Beijing not willing to recognise the former as a nuclear power and treat it with genuine respect and recognition.

In essence, a united DPRK would have even more foreign policy autonomy than it has now. It would have even less incentives to align with Beijing’s interests. It would seek to be recognised another great power with its own agency.
 
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doggydogdo

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RoastGooseHKer said:
Finally, even after the great US-China split of 2018, Xi did little to improved ties (which were serious damaged in 2017 when Xi and Trump nominally worked together to rein in DPRK’s nuclear program, whilst DPRK detonated a nuke on day of Hangzhou G20 Summit) with Kim III despite the former now needs the latter’s support in strategic competition against the U.S. In general, Beijing sees DPRK as nothing more than a buffer against the U.S., whilst DPRK sees Beijing the same way Beijing saw the USSR in the 1960s. Pyongyang also has grievances on Beijing not willing to recognise the former as a nuclear power and treat it with genuine respect and recognition.

In essence, a united DPRK would have even more foreign policy autonomy than it has now. It would have even less incentives to align with Beijing’s interests. It would seek to be recognised another great power with its own agency.
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Xi literally visited DPRK in 2019 lol and after China has voted against sanctions on DPRK since in UNSC. So, you are wrong, Xi actually did improve their relations and is
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GZDRefugee said:
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US territory status for Venezuela incoming.
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Gonna need boot on ground for that.

Honestly given how things are turning out, if US doesn't have balls to put boot on ground for a country in their own back yard and just end up cooperating with the same regime, its a pretty bad sign to anyone hoping US will put its own neck out to save them
 
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