00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

[ACuriousPLAFan]

That was my feeling after listening yes. The year is not necessarily 2027 but a timetable exists, and the year were it all happens is closer than 004's normal commissioning date if construction went at a regular pace, hence why the construction was accelerated.

Bar some divine intervention, the 004 CVN will never be ready for active service in 2027, let alone reaching IOC that would've granted the CVN at least certain degree of capabilities to conduct warfighting operations against the enemy.

If anything, I expect the 004 CVN to be comissioned sometime in 2030, assuming that the CVN is launched by late-2027 and having the same duration of fitting out + sea trials as Fujian.

As others have said above - 2027 is a significant year for the PLA as-a-whole, rather than having a specific AR goal for the rebel itself.

 

[mack8]

Wouldn't 2027 be 100 years of PLA? That would be an important milestone to celebrate, so perhaps that is why some projects might have that date to aim for various milestones. Would they launch 004 in 2027? That suddenly looks too soon considering the amount of work still needed, but with a year and half still to go you never know, they might pull it off.

As far as milestones, launching by 2027 (100 years of PLA) and sea trials by 2029 (80 years of PRC) seem not out of reach.

 

[Blitzo]

Launching in 2027 is viable, if as the trio said, that it is essentially "launched" in a slightly less complete state, requiring a brief return to drydock before being "re-launched" some time later.

That is to say, a launch in 2027 might see the ship in a lesser state of total completion (perhaps internally, perhaps externally, or both to a degree) relative to CV-17 or CV-18 when they were respectively launched.

 

[latenlazy]

Launching in 2027 is viable, if as the trio said, that it is essentially "launched" in a slightly less complete state, requiring a brief return to drydock before being "re-launched" some time later.

That is to say, a launch in 2027 might see the ship in a lesser state of total completion (perhaps internally, perhaps externally, or both to a degree) relative to CV-17 or CV-18 when they were respectively launched.

Ceremonial launch with only barebones operational systems just to make it in time for some kind of display is feasible for a centennial celebration.

 

[Blitzo]

Ceremonial launch with only barebones operational systems just to make it in time for some kind of display is feasible for a centennial celebration.

Well, with barebone systems, rather than "barebone operational systems" -- but I understand your meaning.

I think a centennial celebration would be one of the few exceptions in which the PLA would be willing to mark a more "ceremony in favour of substance" event to a degree. Literally a one in a century occurrence lol

 

[latenlazy]

Well, with barebone systems, rather than "barebone operational systems" -- but I understand your meaning.

I think a centennial celebration would be one of the few exceptions in which the PLA would be willing to mark a more "ceremony in favour of substance" event to a degree. Literally a one in a century occurrence lol

I dropped in operational because they might at least want to launch something off the deck lol.

 

[Blitzo]

I dropped in operational because they might at least want to launch something off the deck lol.

Given the systems and degree of completion that would be needed for that to happen, I am skeptical to that to be honest (if you refer to any aircraft of meaningful size as opposed to say, a symbolic kite or paper plane).

If they are able to launch a carrier from drydock, which *looks* like a carrier, and without any gaping holes and missing structural elements on its flight deck, island etc, then I would already call that quite commendable for 2027.

 

[latenlazy]

Given the systems and degree of completion that would be needed for that to happen, I am skeptical to that to be honest (if you refer to any aircraft of meaningful size as opposed to say, a symbolic kite or paper plane).

If they are able to launch a carrier from drydock, which *looks* like a carrier, and without any gaping holes and missing structural elements on its flight deck, island etc, then I would already call that quite commendable for 2027.

I agree that getting it out of drydock alone would already be commendable and the more likely outcome.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Nope. Just Ayi making an offhand remark about how a hypothetical 003.1 could be 刻舟求剑 from 003

Which means that there may not be a sister ship to the 003 CV-18 Fujian, whether that be:
1. The ship will exist as a separate ship class to Fujian; or
2. The ship does not exist at all?
And more likely to be the latter?

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Which means that there may not be a sister ship to the 003 CV-18 Fujian, whether that be:
1. The ship will exist as a separate ship class to Fujian; or
2. The ship does not exist at all?
And more likely to be the latter?

No, just take it as "they didn't talk about it". Don't overthink it