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montyp165

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I think you are doing China a massive disservice attributing everything to mere emotions.

Sure, Japanese brutality during WWII is most certainly a factor. But the far more important ones are it’s unapologetic stance, openly celebrating convicted war criminals, and persistent mask-off comments and actions that makes Beijing convinced that they would invade China in a heartbeat if they think they could actually win.

That, and its geopolitical location and vassalage to America makes it a persistent threat that constitutes a clear and present danger to China all by itself.

The reality is that in the event of a direct war between China and America, America can choose to continue the war more or less indefinitely so long as it has Japan as a base of operations.

The geographical reality is that using Japanese territory, America can always threaten Chinese mainland areas while China will find it far harder to strike to CONUS.

So, in order to totally secure the Chinese mainland from conventional American attack (I’m talking about large scale attacks that can punch through Chinese defences and cause significant damage, not just harassment attacks hoping to slip though defences and cause embarrassment), China needs the ability to stop America from using Japan as one giant FoB. That’s what the PLAN fleet modernisation for the last 20 years have been basically building up to. The sheer quantity of ships, and the fleet makeup is utter overkill for Taiwan, and any talk of invading CONUS is just pure nonsense. But it would be basically what you need to blockade and/or invade the Japanese home islands.
I'd argue that the PLA has the necessary components now to take the fight to CONUS and win decisively, even if that may not be apparent to other observers at present, but anything post-2027 would make that very clear.
 

supercat

Colonel
Nice summary about the RAND report and its withdrawal: to be brief, the report was forced to withdraw because China hawks don't want to be reminded of the fact that the US no longer has the industrial prowess to confront China.

Coffee Break: Armed Madhouse – RAND Alarms the China Hawks​

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Female Chinese diaspora "journalist", nuff said.
 

siegecrossbow

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A bit absurd, if not laughably embarrassing that this is even news to Bethany.

British NSA Jonathan Powell spent much of his career at the Foreign Office, so he got extensive experience working alongside and negotiating against intelligence officers operating under official covers, assuming he wasn't one himself. For guys like him, it's a part of the job description.

Think tanks like the Grandview Institution and Bethany's very own employer ASPI tend to be stacked with all sorts of former(-ish) intelligence professionals and assets, and in no small part exist so such characters may engage with their foreign colleagues of both the friendly and adversarial varieties.

Therefore, Bethany almost
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characters herself!

So homegirl there is either terrible at feigning outrage, or perhaps deeply bitter about a past run-in with the MSS or one of its sister agencies . . . :D

I’m just surprised that she has found new employment so quickly in this job market.
 

PeoplesPoster

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This video aswell as ChongqingHotpot represents Shanghainese people which is why me and my dad are embarrased to be Shanghainese.

Shanghainese people are such western cocksuckers to the point that it could rival that of HKers and time and time again west stabs China in the back so we it reasonable to view pro western people as the fifth column of China plus HK riots were not long ago so there is that (The Chinese diaspora being from the coast dosen't help).

It dosen't even help that the Shanghainese government is also somewhat like this where they rewrite history to make basically glorify the "Paris of the East" even though all was just a corrupt, crime ridden aparthied state. Not to mentioned they completly omit the fact that Shanghai was already a port city since the song dynasty from the Shanghai history musuem and Shanghai zoo has a eurocentric view on the history of pandas which is fucking disgraceful.

I wish Xi Jinping would have more power so he could purge this shit once and for all.

Xi Dada is also from Shaanxi along with my mom which is another reason whu me and my dad do not claim to be Shanghainese but Shaanxi ren.
Sounds like a you problem. Shanghainese are perfectly fine Chinese citizens and represent a huge part of Chinese economic, technical, and cultural power. Anyone denying that are seriously just deluded.
 

AssassinsMace

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Stage 3 on the 5 stages of grief. Entertaining read and somewhat sobering for those in the US centric think tanks and foreign policy circles.

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Interesting article but it's the typical take one step forward, take two steps back kind of progress. China didn't overreach. China didn't freak out the world. Just like China's so-called overcapacity didn't freak out the world. It only freaked out the West because they're the only ones with the industrial capacity for China to affect. The West is never going to admit they were in the wrong. That's what this spin is about.

If this is true that Trump is returning Sino-US relations to before Trump 1.0 and even some before Obama that would be good for China. The irony is roles will be reversed where it will be the Democrats being the anti-China antagonist still thinking the US can reign-in China. Yes only Trump could do another "Nixon" but so far when it comes to Sino-US relations he's blowing with the wind. Trump is so non-establishment that he'll flip only if he sees that the US cannot beat China and the only path left for the US to make money off of China is to not antagonize China with trade and political barriers and of course if he can spin it make it look he did something monumental for the US.

That's the only way the West can make money from China until they cannot. They want to shoot themselves in the foot by stopping way before the inevitable while not innovating with anything new to sell ahead of China, that's they're own fault. They thought China couldn't do this or that only has cost them more for being so wrong. The only reason why they think they can avoid the inevitable and maintain control with all the power and money is because the military option is open to them. Are they still that naive thinking they would suffer little?
 

TPenglake

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They know of economic consequences, but that amounts to losing money. It won’t affect the safety of their homeland.
Because in the end its always all about the economy (not calling you such, I'm using the idiom here) stupid. Unless its a threat right on their doorstep, plebs rarely care about foreign policy while 90% of the time their wallets are on their mind. And if politicians can't deliver on that front, they lose their jobs no matter what kind of foreign policy boogeymen they drum up.
The lack of punishment on Netherlands probably reinforced their view.
You're not arguing in good faith here. Germany's car industry was brought to a standstill and they practically begged on their knees to the Netherlands to hand Nexperia back to China, which they did. China won that standoff. Or do you think the only acceptable retaliation would've been to send a PLA brigade to Donbass?
Why even philippines with 6 warships dare to use fishing boats to play chicken with Chinese coast guards.
Marcos played chicken with the Chinese coast guard, but rather than being a hero he's now staring down a 33% approval rating and hundreds of thousands of protesters demanding his government's resignation over corruption.

If your hypothesis is that Japan saw Nexperia as a lesson of how it can cross China's redlines, then I don't know what the cause for doomerism is because if anything it says Japan's leaders are so blinded by pride, (or I guess in Takaichi's case her Gaara levels of insomnia) they're unaware of how that episode ended and how it'll end for Japan once China applies all pressure points on their economy, which previously contracted 1.8% mind you.

If the US had a Democrat president willing to prop up Japan's econonomy that's one thing, but tariff Trump? Wrong time to be acting this bellicose.
 

BasilicaLew

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4Tran

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Because in the end its always all about the economy (not calling you such, I'm using the idiom here) stupid. Unless its a threat right on their doorstep, plebs rarely care about foreign policy while 90% of the time their wallets are on their mind. And if politicians can't deliver on that front, they lose their jobs no matter what kind of foreign policy boogeymen they drum up.

You're not arguing in good faith here. Germany's car industry was brought to a standstill and they practically begged on their knees to the Netherlands to hand Nexperia back to China, which they did. China won that standoff. Or do you think the only acceptable retaliation would've been to send a PLA brigade to Donbass?

Marcos played chicken with the Chinese coast guard, but rather than being a hero he's now staring down a 33% approval rating and hundreds of thousands of protesters demanding his government's resignation over corruption.

If your hypothesis is that Japan saw Nexperia as a lesson of how it can cross China's redlines, then I don't know what the cause for doomerism is because if anything it says Japan's leaders are so blinded by pride, (or I guess in Takaichi's case her Gaara levels of insomnia) they're unaware of how that episode ended and how it'll end for Japan once China applies all pressure points on their economy, which previously contracted 1.8% mind you.

If the US had a Democrat president willing to prop up Japan's econonomy that's one thing, but tariff Trump? Wrong time to be acting this bellicose.
It's important to bear in mind that China is winning right now, and winning very hard at basically everything. The American-led counterattacks have all failed; some quite spectacularly. The more this trend continues, the more it favors China so why start a military conflict and risk everything. The calculus would be different if China were losing right now, but that's far from the case.
 
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