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horse

Brigadier
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The sheer number of people making money off this American AI bubble must be staggering. Equally staggering is what will happen when that bubble bursts, and the scale of losses for small investors.

The bubble will not burst.

This AI is real, for the work force, it improves the employee. Therefore, as the employee becomes more productive, then that drives growth.

All the money spent, is in the data centers, which are required. More use of AI means more tokens being inputted and outputted, which means the demand for and the computer power will grow exponentially.

The talk lately is that OpenAI will become a hyper-scaler, which is like what the other companies do. That is Plan B for OpenAI.

Then the funny is, they American do not have enough power for all of this AI infrastructure spending. Therefore, if these high valuations get readjusted, it may be a while because without the power, how fast will they build?
 

Chevalier

Major
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Again, American century of humiliation will continue until these people are purged. Actual useless breathing meat that combined worth far less than an average construction worker in China.
The US and indeed the entire west is defined by elite overproduction ie too many useless failsons and fail daughters and not enough real jobs to absorb them hence fellowships at think tanks and make work email jobs, all subsidised by Chinese investment in US debt which accounted for the long period of ZIRP.

In fact the US is just as desperate as India in trying to find jobs for its own people otherwise there will be civil unrest as it’s already happening not unlike the fall of Ming where unemployed scholars became rebels. India just dumps its ppl to other countries the way they dump their rubbish everywhere they go (allegedly).
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Could it be something as simple as "There are no export controls. We just choose not to sell to you, even though we are not barred from doing so"?
I think it's the gradual tightening of the noose. The global automotive production is still at a standstill due to the Nexperia fiasco, and US military still has legacy advantage despite not being able to feed their troops. Corruption has become so widespread that it is publically visible to the masses. IMO the situation is similar to that of late 80s. The worst thing Reagan could have done at that time was to push the Soviet hardliners too far that they feel that they have nothing to lose. Instead the US dangled a carrot of economic aid in front of USSR to placate the hardliners while encouraging Gorbachev's Perestroika and the dismantling of Soviet military. By the time the Soviet hardliners intervened to stop the inevitable dismemberment of USSR at Belavezha they were far too late.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
At this rate, Xi is going to demand Trump takes off his pants as well, literally won't leave him with any belongings remaining. Emperor with no clothes and all that

Taking his pants down, bending over and taking it from Xi was Bessent’s demand, not China’s. In fact I think China made some concessions to get that offer off the table.
 

doggydogdo

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Also, reminder that China never blocked the exports of rare earths, they just had requirements that rare earths can't be used in weapons and high-end chips. Unless China comes out and cancels all restrictions on export of rare earths, we should treat what trump is saying as just a misunderstanding/lie. I doubt China actually did this because it would make them look super weak considering that rare earth export restrictions on weapons are very justified (also legal under international law) because of Gaza and Venezuela right now.

If these are the real deal, then it would be super stupid for China. Basically, letting Trump getting everything they wanted in exchange of a slight decrease in tariffs which isn't even necessary because how easily it can just be rerouted from another country
 

9dashline

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Also, reminder that China never blocked the exports of rare earths, they just had requirements that rare earths can't be used in weapons and high-end chips. Unless China comes out and cancels all restrictions on export of rare earths, we should treat what trump is saying as just a misunderstanding/lie. I doubt China actually did this because it would make them look super weak considering that rare earth export restrictions on weapons are very justified (also legal under international law) because of Gaza and Venezuela right now.

If these are the real deal, then it would be super stupid for China. Basically, letting Trump getting everything they wanted in exchange of a slight decrease in tariffs which isn't even necessary because how easily it can just be rerouted from another country
China will play the US just like the US played the Native Americans
 

FriedButter

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The spokesman of the Ministry of Commerce answered reporters' questions on the joint arrangements of Sino-US Kuala Lumpur Economic and Trade Consultations​

Q: It is understood that China and the United States have reached joint arrangements to solve the economic and trade issues of concern in the economic and trade consultation in Kuala Lumpur. May I ask if the Ministry of Commerce can introduce more information about the consensus of the Kuala Lumpur Economic and Trade Consultation?

Answer: The leaders of China and the United States have just held a meeting in Busan, South Korea, to discuss issues such as Sino-US economic and trade relations in depth, and agreed to strengthen economic and trade cooperation in other fields. China is willing to work with the United States to jointly maintain and implement the important consensus of the meeting between the two heads of state.

The consensus reached by the Sino-US economic and trade team through consultation in Kuala Lumpur mainly include the following aspects:

I. The United States will cancel the so-called "fentanyl tariff of 10% imposed on Chinese goods (including Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and Macao Special Administrative Region commodities), and the 24% equivalent tariff imposed on Chinese goods (including Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and Macao Special Administrative Region commodities) will continue to be suspended for one year. China will adjust the countermeasures against the above tariffs of the United States accordingly. The two sides agreed to continue to extend some tariff exclusion measures.

II. The United States will suspend the implementation of the 50% penetration rule of export control announced on September 29 for one year. China will suspend the implementation of the relevant export control and other measures announced on October 9 for one year, and will study and refine specific plans.

III. The United States will suspend the implementation of its 301 investigation measures against China's maritime, logistics and shipbuilding for one year. After the United States suspends the implementation of relevant measures, China will also suspend the implementation of countermeasures against the United States for one year.

In addition, the two sides also reached a consensus on fentanyl anti-drug cooperation, expansion of agricultural trade, and case handling of related enterprises. The two sides further confirmed the results of Madrid's economic and trade consultations. The United States has made positive commitments in investment and other fields. China will properly resolve TikTok-related issues with the United States.

The positive results of the Sino-US Kuala Lumpur Economic and Trade Consultation fully prove that the two sides adhere to the spirit of equality, respect and reciprocity and can find solutions to problems through dialogue and cooperation. The results of economic and trade consultations are not easy to come by. China looks forward to working with the United States to do a good job in implementation and inject more certainty and stability into Sino-US economic and trade cooperation and the world economy.
II. The United States will suspend the implementation of the 50% penetration rule of export control announced on September 29 for one year. China will suspend the implementation of the relevant export control and other measures announced on October 9 for one year, and will study and refine specific plans.
III. The United States will suspend the implementation of its 301 investigation measures against China's maritime, logistics and shipbuilding for one year. After the United States suspends the implementation of relevant measures, China will also suspend the implementation of countermeasures against the United States for one year.
 
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