J-10 Thread IV

[00CuriousObserver]

I know that J-10B is comparable with F-16E Block 60, technically speaking. Which is a very good addition to Indonesian air force in terms of capability. But why not brand new J-10CE? If I’m not wrong, J-10B can’t use long range PL-15 missiles that shot down those indian rafale.

Hopefully Indonesian air force bought the upgrade package for the J-10B with AESA Radar & PL-15 Missiles. Making it J-10B-ID

$$$

Regardless, the rumour goes that the J-10Bs would be upgraded with AESA radars (J-10BG? J-10BI?)

 

[Gloire_bb]

Without awacs?

Of course. Ground radars and GCI are still a thing.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Indonesia's national news agency, Antara, reported on this. And Global Times made a comment

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1978717425446306149

 

[talonn]

the news is also all over Indonesia media now. But we still don't know whether is J-10B or J-10CE (please be the latter)

 

[Lethe]

Well, AP thinks it's enough for them to report on this

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JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) — Indonesia’s top defense official said Wednesday that Jakarta will acquire at least 42 Chinese-made Chengdu J-10C fighter jets, marking the country’s first non-Western aircraft purchase deal.

 

[siegecrossbow]

What about Flankers?

 

[ComradeVortex]

I suspect Indonesia bought J-10B because it uses AL-31 family engine, and crews already are familiar with working on it (Flankers).

Again, enthusiasts are talking about a J-10BD, I suspect it’s a modernised/specialised version for Indonesia.

J-10B and J-10C share similar external parts and dimensions. The difference on sensors and engine. Deino also talked that 50 J-10B basically in reserve condition as China wants J-10C with their own WS-10 engine being operated rather then AL-31 powered J-10B.

So basically those J-10B are in relatively low airframe hours, and China seems willing to let them go on a discount price. For Indonesia it means similar engine with Flankers that TNI-AU engineers are already familiar with. Speculation is that they all going to operate in Kupang, Biak and Makasar. TNI-AU also already signed agreement with India on Flankers for maintenance, and i guess it will include AL-31 engines.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I suspect Indonesia bought J-10B because it uses AL-31 family engine, and crews already are familiar with working on it (Flankers).

Again, enthusiasts are talking about a J-10BD, I suspect it’s a modernised/specialised version for Indonesia.

J-10B and J-10C share similar external parts and dimensions. The difference on sensors and engine. Deino also talked that 50 J-10B basically in reserve condition as China wants J-10C with their own WS-10 engine being operated rather then AL-31 powered J-10B.

So basically those J-10B are in relatively low airframe hours, and China seems willing to let them go on a discount price. For Indonesia it means similar engine with Flankers that TNI-AU engineers are already familiar with. Speculation is that they all going to operate in Kupang, Biak and Makasar. TNI-AU also already signed agreement with India on Flankers for maintenance, and i guess it will include AL-31 engines.

J-10C also used AL-31FN until around 2020 when they started putting WS-10B on new and export J-10C. Not sure how low the airframe hours are on the J-10B since they’ve been in service for around a decade by now.

 

[Maikeru]

For me the more interesting question is what the current NTC J-10B brigade will get to replace it? J-35A?

 

[siegecrossbow]

For me the more interesting question is what the current NTC J-10B brigade will get to replace it? J-35A?

Probably vanilla hand down or J-20A.