Do you think they would have bought the B?
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Do you think they would have bought the B?
The procurement priority now is kinda "How fast you can deliver". if the B or even AG (J-10A with AESA mid-life update) It would be preferred. It's retarded but i will be honest with you that the one handling the procurement kinda want quick commission.
Whichever flanker it ends up being, how much do you think they bought?
"Flanker" means the Su27 lineage. We are talking about J10 now. Also, just a few pages before there is an AP news article clearly stating 42 airframes.
Please just put in your basic level of research/effort when blindly asking stuff like this.
Per their CHH podcast today, the trio thinks it's new, aka J-10CE, and they think it's very geopolitical in nature (which I'm sure you all have some idea about)
I'm not totally sure if they have insider info on this. It sounded like they don't and these are just their educated opinions.
I'm not totally sure if they have insider info on this. It sounded like they don't and these are just their educated opinions.
If they get some j10CE, they will see how much they got ripped off from France and hopefully expose how overhyped spectre is
plawolf
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If they are smart, maybe the can flip their Rafales to the Indians, which will not only fully fund the J10 purchase, but probably also yield a huge amount of profit on top.
J-10 doesn't offer same deal as rafale does. Rafale is a single stop, full stack aircraft.
J-10 is a better a2a aircraft, and after zhuhai-24 there's path (paid or not - unknown) to at least decrease discrepancy in range/strike metrics, but ultimately j-10 family is fighter-interceptor first - and foremost.
China has optimized the aircraft for A2A, but it doesn't mean it can be de-optimized to do Air-to-Surface against ground targets or Anti-Shipping, it'll be easy to have a lof of china's best ammunition that beat what france can offer in range, quality and quantity. And Rafale doesn't offer a long range or time endurance in mission -- it doesn't offer what a flanker offers for instance.
And J-10C will offer all of that without the problems associated with western ammunition, especially the modern ones like meteor are using american-made components and falls under ITAR, so it requires USA permission to sell, which delayed european capability to give it to ukraine for a long time and denied it completely from Egypt. Even though france is the best in europe in being autonomous, like the SCALP-EG which uses only frensh component.
And we should remember that the west won't want to militarize a country that they want to to block its sea routes because they have a war with another country (china).
So this talk about "J-10 being only A2A, while Rafale offers full package" is full of static & false assumptions, J-10 can do a lot of this missions and offer more capability in some - if not most of them - but you'll not be using it like china does which can impose more costs, but still it's doable.
Microimage of one of the birds slated for delivery.