J-10 Thread IV

[siegecrossbow]

The J-10 was based on the cancelled J-9, which was designed over a decade before the Lavi ever flew. Comparing it to the Flanker variants is particularly egregious, too: the J-16 and J-15 have essentially the same overall airframe as their forebears (albeit with significant upgrades), while the J-10 is significantly larger and heavier than the Lavi, has a different canard arrangement, a more powerful engine, a completely different gun setup, different intake geometry, lacks wingtip AAM pylons, etc., etc. Even if they benefitted from IAI's data in some way (and to my knowledge there's no paper trail for that as there is with the J-15, for instance), the sheer scale of the differences make it an entirely new aircraft in a way that the J-15 and J-16 aren't. If it really is a copy, why change so much?

French input to J-10 was (ironic in retrospect) much greater than the Israeli input.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Well, AP thinks it's enough for them to report on this

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With the same $9 billion too (AP is potentially misquoting here?)

Finance Minister Purbaya Yudhi Sadewa on Wednesday confirmed that his ministry had approved a budget for the purchase of the aircraft from China that reached more than $9 billion.

Hole Hole aka Chengdu gay guy gave a "yeah" emote on the purchase news. Personally I feel like there’s a lot more noise this time around

 

[siegecrossbow]

Well, AP thinks it's enough for them to report on this

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With the same $9 billion too (AP is potentially misquoting here?)


Hole Hole aka Chengdu gay guy gave a "yeah" emote on the purchase news. Personally I feel like there’s a lot more noise this time around

9 billion dollars is the total budget allocated, not for spend hand J-10s (of which they are a part).

Also Gay Guy is not from Chengdu. I think he is a Hainan native since he always complains about how people in Sanya rip off tourists and have ruined the province’s reputation.

 

[talonn]

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Also Gay Guy is not from Chengdu. I think he is a Hainan native since he always complains about how people in Sanya rip off tourists and have ruined the province’s reputation.

Iirc he's not even gay (I don't actually know tho). But as far as I'm concerned, he is the Chengdu Gay Guy

Also btw, not sure if you saw:

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My reverse copium here is that they were talking about new Rafales, but the video editor didn't know better and mistook a J-10C for a Rafale.

 

[_killuminati_]

For Ukraine - direct ability to counter Russian air raids (effectively suppressing glide bomb attacks),

Without awacs?

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Here's a source saying it's $1.6 billion for J-10B. Not sure about credibility, apparently he is an expert in Indonesian defense

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1978601295402664253

Ayi and Adorable Dolphin also mentioned it's not illogical for ID to match Rafales with J-10Bs

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Delete, wrong thread

 

[ComradeVortex]

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There’s a PAF JF-17, perhaps it was from last year exercises? Then, the J-10 would be a Pakistani one, not Egyptian.

apparently he is an expert in Indonesian defense

He‘s one of the analysts for Janes

 

[talonn]

There’s a PAF JF-17, perhaps it was from last year exercises? Then, the J-10 would be a Pakistani one, not Egyptian.


He‘s one of the analysts for Janes

Yep, most likely chinese and Pakistani jets. But its interesting that they still included them in their military promo video. What are they suggesting?