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[BasilicaLew]

We have on record that at least one S-400 operator was killed during Op Sindoor, right?

The Indians initially claimed he went on a sudden vacation but later his funeral was leaked to the media. So if the S-400 managed to get away from harm's way, how did he die on that very day?

Seems like the stories keep getting tangled.

A bit late to respond but most likely during pack up they hit a guy who was packing up the radar, that missile doesn't have a huge warhead so it would be unlikely to hit the rest of the battalion. Hence why Modi showed one of the S-400 launchers and not the radar, which he would've wanted to show the radar because obviously has better PR due to its imposing size. I mean an entire S-400 won't die all in one shot unless a DF-26 hit it with a cluster warhead.

 

[Gloire_bb]

I wonder why Russia is so desperate to give up its tech to India in su-57. They said they will produce su-57 in India. If they produce it in India, they don't get much benefit anyway

Money. And tech transfer is broad thing - for example, su-30mki did a lot of tech transfer (compared to french, who provided exactly none).
And India can do a lot of local maintenance on MKI, including producing some important and electronics for it. At the same time, it can't produce neither aircraft nor key components.

Furthermore, money is important in two ways - apart from direct income(to manufacturer), export customer(who has the money) has a lot of leeway over manufacturer which domestic armed forces have not (India doesn't care about employment in Russian Far East).
AIrcraft with succesful exports in Russian case tend to work much better than those without.

 

[gelgoog]

I wonder why Russia is so desperate to give up its tech to India in su-57. They said they will produce su-57 in India. If they produce it in India, they don't get much benefit anyway

Engines often cost a huge chunk of the price of an aircraft. And it is normal to build part of the order in Russia, then some as knock down kits, then it gets progressively indigenized.
You also earn money on consumables like weapons.

A weapon sale helps pay back the R&D investment and gives you political influence in that country.

 

[Deino]

I wonder why Russia is so desperate to give up its tech to India in su-57. They said they will produce su-57 in India. If they produce it in India, they don't get much benefit anyway

No-one but stupid Indian Sites Claim this nonsense

 

[Gloire_bb]

Btw, reading recent article on Sindoor, noticed interesting detail: Rawalpindi was hit in second wave of strikes with Spice-2000.

This has two implications:
1, as much as we focus on first engagement, follow on is important, too. while Rawalpindi isn't far from border, Spice-2000 isn't a missile either; it's gliding performance isn't magic.
I.e. Indian aircraft could still come into direct vicinity of Pakistan without paying the price, at altitude at that. Yes, they failed to hit intended target, but they should've been very deep in engagement zone of SAMs(Rawalpindi isn't far from Islamabad, it's a key area).
Takeway is simple - opponent should be treated seriously.

2, it's ironic that French didn't really feel offended to integrate foreign armament even relatively recently (indian mirage 2000 upgrades are very fresh).
Problem is somehow specifically Rafale.

 

[gelgoog]

It is one thing to get paid by a client to add a module. It is quite another to get asked to share source code access. You just don't know which licenses that code is in. And in modern aircraft the software is as complicated as the rest of the aircraft and hugely expensive to develop.

I think the Swedes handle this best as the software for Gripen is highly modular and it is easy to add support for a weapon type. Compare the time taken to integrate the Meteor missile on Gripen, Eurofighter, and Rafale.

 

[Albatross]

Btw, reading recent article on Sindoor, noticed interesting detail: Rawalpindi was hit in second wave of strikes with Spice-2000.

This has two implications:
1, as much as we focus on first engagement, follow on is important, too. while Rawalpindi isn't far from border, Spice-2000 isn't a missile either; it's gliding performance isn't magic.
I.e. Indian aircraft could still come into direct vicinity of Pakistan without paying the price, at altitude at that. Yes, they failed to hit intended target, but they should've been very deep in engagement zone of SAMs(Rawalpindi isn't far from Islamabad, it's a key area).
Takeway is simple - opponent should be treated seriously.

2, it's ironic that French didn't really feel offended to integrate foreign armament even relatively recently (indian mirage 2000 upgrades are very fresh).
Problem is somehow specifically Rafale.

He made a mistake or misheard, it was SCALP not Spice-2000

 

[Gloire_bb]

He made a mistake or misheard, it was SCALP not Spice-2000

That would make more sense,
using spice there would've been an impressive demonstration of strength(arguably, not less that original ops was intended to show, given the location) and AD failure;
SCALPs, not very much.

 

[Deino]

Take a look at this statement. Indian may have a chance for a new 6th Gen fighter jet project.

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I was on Tuesday at a conference in Vienna and had the chance to discuss certain aspects like this as well as I met yesterday a very knowledgeable Indian analyst and we discussed lots of issues, events and programs and in the end he told me.

1. Avoid IDRW at all cost, it‘s a watse of bandwidth and time and most of all brain-cells! It‘s PURE BS and only a click-bait site.

2. Since I‘m so often mocking Indian „progress“ or better to say the „ratio of claims to results“ he told me I‘m not even close to the amount of nonsense going on and totally irrational decisions being made by the MoD. I would be correct in all my claims and in fact it is even more worse!

 

[mossen]

The original deal for the SU-57 collapsed partly because of lack of ToT, tho I would imagine the Russians will be more accommodating this time round.

I view it the opposite. When the Russians were still developing the plane, they wanted Indian co-financing. Clearly the Indians thought they should have gotten more ToT, but there was at least a greater incentive for the Russians to do so.

Now the Russians have an established platform. What's the incentive to transfer anything significant? They built the plane themselves from the ground-up without any Indian co-financing. For the Russians, this is no different than just selling a complete plane, because that's what it is. And so why would ToT be easier this time?

The Indians don't trust the US and obviously they won't buy anything from China. The EU doesn't have its own 5th gen jet. That only leaves the Russians. And this gives Russia leverage.