CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[bsdnf]

Some observations: KJ-600's launch speed is very low, because it doesn't need a high takeoff speed. It just needs a little push.

This is the advantage of electromagnetic catapults: speed can be adjusted flexibly according to the load. No more forceful yanking from the steam catapults.

 

[siegecrossbow]

In retrospect EMAL is the right decision since the power requirement to heat steam on a conventional carrier must be insane.

 

[Sardaukar20]

Coming*. There's this jubilant atmosphere everywhere, but it's too early, yet.
China's carrier fleet (2 CV medium, 4 LHA - now, 1 CVA, 1 LHA/CVL - working up) isn't exactly equal to american (11 CVN , 9 LHA/LHD active, 1 CVN, 2 LHA working up). Even counting very generously, it's still not anywhere near the ratio Japan had v US at Marianas.

Until and unless PLAN can meet USN on even terms in open ocean, or until US and its chain of alliances will collapse, country will remain threatened by enemy aircraft carriers. It can be very well defended, but offensive threat didn't go anywhere.

Obviously more Chinese CVs are coming in the future. However, when talking about the strategies to deal with enemy aircraft carriers, there is another thread to do this.

What truly matters is that these aircraft launch and recovery videos officially confirms that the PLAN naval aviation have entered the CATOBAR age. This is a significant milestone for China, considering its history with aircraft carriers. It should be celebrated with this context in mind.

 

[bsdnf]

I must remind :

Type 003 represents the growth of the PLA's aircraft carrier force. However, unlike the United States, the PLA's surface fleet, and even its carrier strike groups, still not solely centered around aircraft carriers.

We need to recall the YJ series displayed at the military parade and move away from the Cold War binary of American aircraft carrier formations and Soviet aircraft cruiser formations. PLAN's carrier strike group is merging both concepts, capable of delivering the high sortie rate, long range, and diverse payload-carrying naval aviation like American aircraft carriers, while also being able to launch powerful missile salvos like the Soviet Navy.

 

[Moonscape]

This mad-libs has been going around:

据报道，日前（）国的 福（）号航空母舰 成功用电磁弹射放飞了其配套的（）35型战机，系人类历史上首次用航母电磁弹射装置放飞五代隐身战机。

"According to reports, ______ country's F____-class aircraft carrier has successfully used its electromagnetic catapult to launch a __-35 fighter, representing the first launch of a fifth-generation stealth fighter using electromagnetic catapult technology."

Mad props to the PLAN for beating the USN.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Does anyone know why Chinese libs are losing their shit on Twitter/Weibo/Zhihu? To me the EMAL is cool and all but not really as big of a SeeSeePee win as dual Sixth Gen testflight or May 7th turkey shoot.

 

[bsdnf]

Does anyone know why Chinese libs are losing their shit on Twitter/Weibo/Zhihu? To me the EMAL is cool and all but not really as big of a SeeSeePee win as dual Sixth Gen testflight or May 7th turkey shoot.

aircraft carrier formations that intrude into the high seas of other countries and act recklessly are their spiritual totem.

Or to use the Guancha trio's evaluation of the H-20: it is the 鼎 of a great power. Don't ask what it is for, first of all, you have to have it, so that you can tell other countries that you are on a different level.

Now, the nation that was once subjected to the aircraft carrier's unrestrained actions—a nation they believed should remain at the great power's mercy—has come into possession of the 鼎. This represents a complete usurpation.

 

[taxiya]

Must be a happy day in office for those video editors!

@bd popeye must be so proud to see this! Remember the old days when we were arguing whether China should leapfrog the steam catapult? And here we are.

I was thinking WTF when people arguing "China need experience of operating steam cat to move on to EM cat" although China has neither experiences making that argument totally brainless, yet lots of people still hung onto it. I still can't figure out how that argument even came about.

 

[bsdnf]

Some thoughts: Considering the capabilities recently demonstrated by the Type 003 fleet, there's actually confidence to face a comparable carrier fleet after the IOC.

The only question is underwater: Is it possible that we'll see a dedicated anti-submarine aircraft similar to the S-3 in the future? Or perhaps modified base on KJ-600 airframe?

 

[plawolf]

I was thinking WTF when people arguing "China need experience of operating steam cat to move on to EM cat" although China has neither experiences making that argument totally brainless, yet lots of people still hung onto it. I still can't figure out how that argument even came about.

Simple Hollywood approved racism. Chinese can only copy, and can only copy EXACTLY like how the superior white man did it. Even the idea that China could skip a step in its copying was a thought heresy of the highest order.