Trump 2.0 official thread

abenomics12345

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Have we discussed the ludicrousness of this version of events in Georgia?

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Several people familiar with Korean conglomerates in the US said it was an “open secret” that they and their subcontractors used the B-1 visa, which allows entry to the US for business purposes but does not allow the holder to work for payment, as well as the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) system that facilitates short-term business visits. “The business community, the Korean government and diplomats have been well aware of this problem all along,” an executive from a leading industry group said. “We are very worried that ICE can target other Korean facilities too because they have been following the same practices and have similar problems.” The operation last week has provoked fury in Asia’s fourth-largest economy, after ICE released a video of Korean workers in yellow vests shackled at the ankles, wrists and waist during the raid, which involved helicopters, armoured vehicles and heavily armed agents.

A senior South Korean official said the companies had been placed in an “impossible position”, as successive US governments pushed them to invest billions of dollars in reviving American industry while refusing to facilitate short-term working visas for projects to be completed on time.

“The US government is two-faced,” said Chang Sang-sik, head of research at the Korea International Trade Association. “It is asking Korea to invest more in the US, while treating Korean workers like criminals even when it is well aware that they are needed for these projects to happen.”
 

daifo

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South Koreans have no one to blame except themselves for making their economy so dependent on the US and operating as a vassal. Kinda funny how some Asians Americans were like "WE ARE NOT CHINESE!!!!" when the anit-china hate was on. They are now making TikTok "but these foreign koreans are here to help the us!!!!"
 

TPenglake

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This is something America must do to make up for their lack of innate power but innate power is China's supreme advantage.
This is the wrong way to look at it I feel. Having sharp minds is all for nought if you don't have an environment where they can soar to the heights they were meant to. Russia is exhibit A of this. America's innate power may not be in its ability to produce talent, but in the dollar's status as the world currency which gives it near unlimited VC funding and the free culture of places like Silicon Valley. That is power, granted nowadays a power that America under Trump is willing to throw away.

But China can't bet on that alone, it too has to create sources of startup funding similar to what America has and foster an environment where it not only retains Chinese talent, but attracts talent from elsewhere in the world.
 

manqiangrexue

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This is the wrong way to look at it I feel. Having sharp minds is all for nought if you don't have an environment where they can soar to the heights they were meant to.
China's environment is one of extreme competition in high tech. It will literally eat iself if you don't regulate it. If one can be successful there, one can cruise anywhere in the tech scenes of the world.
Russia is exhibit A of this.
How so?
America's innate power may not be in its ability to produce talent, but in the dollar's status as the world currency which gives it near unlimited VC funding and the free culture of places like Silicon Valley. That is power, granted nowadays a power that America under Trump is willing to throw away.
That is not an innate power; that is America's greatest tool. It is not innate because it can be broken and it will be broken when people are forced to answer the question, "Why do we need to send our output to America for freely-printed American paper that Americans act like it's a privilege for us to own when we can just consume what we make, enjoy life more, and do business with our own paper?" America is masquarading as the critical consumer of the world when in fact, it is the most useless entitled freeloading country in history and everyone would be better (except Israel LOL) enjoying the fruits of their own labor in a world without America.
But China can't bet on that alone,
China's not betting on it; China's beating the US even with the USD at its peak. Its fall would only make things far too easy.
it too has to create sources of startup funding similar to what America has and foster an environment where it not only retains Chinese talent, but attracts talent from elsewhere in the world.
China really only needs Chinese talent from across the world and we only needed this as a jump start to when we were backward. Now, we are at the tip of every critical technology and moving faster than anyone else; we really only need to develop in our own environment while sucking in the leftover Chinese talent abroad as a bonus.

There is one very bad point about attracting foriegn talent, especially of non-Chinese blood and that is that there is no loyalty. If we can buy him, then so can anyone, and his home country should have an even easier time. They may even come with the intent of betrayal. Not that all Chinese are loyal, but the risk is much higher in a foreigner. America suffers greatly from this; its scientists are only there for the material goods and frequently come and go as the deals bring them.
 
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