Artificial Intelligence thread

[gelgoog]

The reason the Soviet Union collapsed was economic. The oil price collapsed, making export revenues diminish, and they had a highly inneficient economy.

Then Gorbachev made stupid policies like allowing the setup of unregulated cooperatives. These could operate as banks and export companies. Products were exported by these companies in exchange for hard currency, and then Soviet shelves got empty. Some cooperatives just bought whatever was in the government stores and resold the products at inflated prices.

 

[Siffrin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963996324614799366

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1963991502440562976

More from Qwen team. Just waiting for its full release now

Qwen didn't release their last Max model either. I think they're going to stay closed for significant distillation efforts.

 

[Michael90]

It doesn't matter if the CCP collapses, getting rid of censorship will mean that China will be controlled by who control the media, whether it's through the CCP or another entity/entities.

Yeah that will be true if CCP was like any other political party on earth, but its not the case. CCP is a party state. This means that they see themselves as china itself not just a political ruling party who can be changed in future. For CCP there is no China without the party. So this makes it more volatile and fangerous for China if one day the party lost power. It can lead to serious power vaccum and political instability. For example even the army and police force itself might collapse and be divided, since the party sees the PLA as the armed wing of the party not the national army of China, that in itself is a big difference compared to most countries on earth. Reason the party demands loyalty from the military to the party FIRST AND COUNTRY SECOND. this is explicitly stated policy its not something they hide. So for the party it seems you can't love China and not love the party. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

So in this case when the party ever loses power(which is inevitable since no party or orgnisation can rule forever) it can lead to serious instability and power vacuum which different actors will start fighting and justling to take power and even dibisions within the party srmed wing the PLA as different high rank military officials might be divided among those who will support the party and those against. I think thats the biggest threat, not a chnage of ruling parth itself but the way the party itself is structured.

 

[august1]

Yeah that will be true if CCP was like any other political party on earth, but its not the case. CCP is a party state. This means that they see themselves as china itself not just a political ruling party who can be changed in future. For CCP there is no China without the party. So this makes it more volatile and fangerous for China if one day the party lost power. It can lead to serious power vaccum and political instability. For example even the army and police force itself might collapse and be divided, since the party sees the PLA as the armed wing of the party not the national army of China, that in itself is a big difference compared to most countries on earth. Reason the party demands loyalty from the military to the party FIRST AND COUNTRY SECOND. this is explicitly stated policy its not something they hide. So for the party it seems you can't love China and not love the party. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

So in this case when the party ever loses power(which is inevitable since no party or orgnisation can rule forever) it can lead to serious instability and power vacuum which different actors will start fighting and justling to take power and even dibisions within the party srmed wing the PLA as different high rank military officials might be divided among those who will support the party and those against. I think thats the biggest threat, not a chnage of ruling parth itself but the way the party itself is structured.

This is a naive, reddit-tier take on Chinese history and society. The degree of chaos that China historically experienced following the collapse of a previous dynasty has nothing to do with how liberal that dynasty was. Instead it has everything to do with how strong and organized the following dynasty was. That's why there was decades of chaos (where the annual death rate was continuously higher than even the worst years of the Great Famine) following the collapse of the Qing and the establishment of the fractured ROC government, whereas the transition from the ROC to the PRC immediately ended warlordism and united the country. In case you've forgotten, the KMT government was anything but a democracy. Unlike the late Qing, which had devolved in little fiefs and kingdoms towards its end and could barely even muster the strength to go after revolutionaries like Sun Yat-Sen, the KMT massacred communists and supposed communist sympathizers in the millions.

China's one and only metric for its government since ancient times is competence. Any other bad-faith concern-trolling takes by Westerners like you are a complete waste of its time.