Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.
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yeah I don't know about that , if you are getting hit by a 50cal that already a bad day , and since 50cal is mostly machine guns , it won't just be 1 bullet flying at you.A plate to protect against 12.7x108mm armor piercing rounds, weight under 5kg.
This could be for protection against high caliber sniper rifles that becoming prevalent in Ukraine War.
plawolf
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Machine guns in real life rarely achieve multi-hits on man sized targets at range in combat, much less a ballistic plate. If you are getting engaged by a 50 HMG, getting hit where you haven’t got plate coverage is going to be an infinitely bigger risk than a super lucky double tap within close proximity of each other to punch through your 50 cal rated plate. I would much prefer a quick end from a double tap to the chest than a slower and far more painful death from an exploded leg or ripped open abdomen for example.
But even if the plate stops a 50, I’m pretty sure you are going to have broken ribs and internal bleeding at a minimum afterwards, so your fight is done. This is just meant to try and save your life, multi-hit capacity is utterly pointless.
But even if the plate stops a 50, I’m pretty sure you are going to have broken ribs and internal bleeding at a minimum afterwards, so your fight is done. This is just meant to try and save your life, multi-hit capacity is utterly pointless.
And that kinda my point , I am not sure I want to survive a 50cal hit even with the plate , even it stops it , dying a slow death of a collapsed lung, internal bleeding . I get the point that it increase the chance of survival , but it sorta striks me as giving you a choice of dying fast or slow.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Getting hit by a 50 with a plate that can stop it will almost certainly incapacitate you and cause you serious injuries, but it shouldn’t be lethal. At least not in the short term.
Whatever pain and suffering you might endure from the blunt force trauma from the plate will be incomparable to what it would be like taking a non-instant-fatal 50 cal hit without said plate.
If given the choice, I would take the plate every time as that’s just better odds of survival and less pain and suffering.
But to be honest, I think we are all going off on a tangent with the focus on 50 cals. What this plate is really going to do is utterly fuck up America’s planned switch to 6.5mm as a means to more reliably punch through existing common issue plates, as now they have all the drawbacks of a much bigger caliber without the cornerstone benefit that was supposed to bring in mitigating against opfor plates.
You can never have too much protection unless it puts you at disadvantage, I don't see the problem with this plate.
We didn't see the Digital NVG in PLA troops in the parade like we did in 2019. What happened to those? Did they give up on introducing them to the rest of the PLA?
It's odd of you to think PLA not having this and that just because you don't see them. The parade is not meant to be an open house event. Heck, even on an open house day, you won't see everything.
I thought they showed the NVG last time as a new service equipment along with new uniform and new service rifle. It seemed like all PLA soldiers will get it as standard equipment. If its service equipment, then they will have included that in the parade.