Chinese Hypersonic Developments (HGVs/HCMs)

taxiya

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I keep coming back to this image. There is a huge amount of images, videos associated with H-20 is this design. I also saw models toys with this design named H-20.

So, I have a feeling this is the real thing. This design is long enough that it can probably support supersonic speed and also long missiles in its bay.

So, Overall it could be quite interesting if this design turn out to be real. Cause everyone here dismissed it as fake.
This is one of many approaches for supersonic flywing design that were investigated by various Chinese institutions. I have seen the paper about this particular approach. But if J-36 can do supersonic without large stablizers, there is no reason that a lesser manuverable aircraft need this design. I'd say this design is dropped.

BTW, it is an extraordinary work that China achieved supersonic flywing design without resorting to large control surface like this.
 

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on a hypersonic wave rider design that has retractable wings to enable it to cruise at slower speeds, thereby giving it more tactical flexibility.

Abstract: Cross-speed-range vehicles have shown significant application potential in rapid deployment, persistent reconnais-sance, and high-speed delivery. However, their development faces core challenges: a single aerodynamic configura-tion is often insufficient to accommodate complex flight condition requirements, and large monolithic platforms are difficult to adapt for swarm-based deployment. This study proposes a morphing glide vehicle configuration with swarm deployment capability and balanced cross-speed-range performance. The design integrates a waverider body with rotating and telescopic wings. A comprehensive framework is established, encompassing design, optimization, and performance evaluation, forming a closed-loop development process from mission requirement definition to perfor-mance validation for cross-speed-range morphing glide vehicles. In the system-level assessment, a parameter evalua-tion method based on a multi-stage reentry flight corridor is proposed. For aerodynamic optimization, a cross-speed-range optimization method is developed for the waverider tail fairing, along with a two-stage global–local optimization strategy for morphing wing design. Based on the hp-adaptive Radau Pseudospectral Method (hp-RPM), reachable domain computation and mission capability evaluation are performed. A dive–climb deceleration strategy suitable for this layout is proposed, enabling the vehicle to overcome quasi-equilibrium glide constraints and fulfill deceleration requirements without modifying the configuration, thereby improving its payload capacity.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Summing up what we've known about China's hypersonic missile arsenal, so far. The list may not be exhaustive.

Visually Confirmed/Officially Confirmed:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMTEL
YJ-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-19Air-breathing HCMSRBMTorpedo tubes of SSK and SSN
YJ-20Bi-conical HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-21/KD-21Bi-conical HGVMRBMH-6K/J/N
YJ-XX/DF-XX ("Beijing Heavy Hammer")Bi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM/IRBM(?)H-6N

Rumored/Claimed/Mentioned:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-27Wave-rider HGVIRBMTEL
DF-19 (successor to DF-17)Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX (UVLS-adapted YJ-19)Air-breathing HCMMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
DF-XX (TEL-based variant of YJ-19(?)/YJ-XX(?))Air-breathing HCMMRBMTEL
DF-XXAir-breathing HCMMRBMTEL
DF-XX (land-based variant of YJ-20)Bi-conical HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX/DF-XXBi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
YJ-XX/DF-XXAir-breathing HCMMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
DF-XX (Next-gen ICBM RV(?)/FOBS(?))Wave-rider HGV(?)ICBMTEL/Silo

Note:
- Despite having MaRV variants, the DF-16 and DF-26 are not considered for the tabulation.
- Classification of ranges for SRBM (<1000 kilometers), MRBM (1000-3000 kilometers), IRBM (3000-8000 kilometers), ICBM (>8000 kilometers), respectively.
 
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Tomboy

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Summing up what we've known about China's hypersonic missile arsenal, so far. The list may not be exhaustive.

Visually Confirmed/Officially Confirmed:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMTEL
YJ-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-19Air-breathing HCMSRBMTorpedo tubes of SSK and SSN
YJ-20Bi-conical HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-21/KD-21Bi-conical HGVMRBMH-6K/J/N
YJ-XX/DF-XX ("Beijing Heavy Hammer")Bi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM/IRBM(?)H-6N

Rumored/Claimed/Mentioned:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-27Wave-rider HGVIRBMTEL
DF-19 (successor to DF-17)Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX (UVLS-adapted YJ-19)Air-breathing HCMMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
DF-XX (land-based variant of YJ-19/YJ-XX)Air-breathing HCMMRBMTEL
DF-XX (land-based variant of YJ-20)Bi-conical HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX/DF-XXBi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
YJ-XX/DF-XXAir-breathing HCMMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
DF-XX (Next-gen ICBM RV(?)/FOBS(?))Wave-rider HGV(?)ICBMTEL/Silo

Note:
- Despite having MaRV variants, the DF-16 and DF-26 are not considered for the tabulation.
- Ranges for SRBM (<1000 kilometers), MRBM (1000-3000 kilometers), IRBM (3000-8000 kilometers), ICBM (>8000 kilometers) respectively.
I think you forgot the CJ-1K, the dual square tube ground based HCM.
 

Tomboy

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I classify that one under the "DF-XX (land-based variant of YJ-19/YJ-XX)" naming for the time being - Or are these two completely separate things?
I don't think there is any relation between CJ-1K and YJ-19 other than the fact both are HCM using scramjet considering CJ-1K is a CJ-100 sized missile with all the fancy gizmos that was talked about in the podcast.
 

bsdnf

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Summing up what we've known about China's hypersonic missile arsenal, so far. The list may not be exhaustive.

Visually Confirmed/Officially Confirmed:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMTEL
YJ-17Wave-rider HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-19Air-breathing HCMSRBMTorpedo tubes of SSK and SSN
YJ-20Bi-conical HGVMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
YJ-21/KD-21Bi-conical HGVMRBMH-6K/J/N
YJ-XX/DF-XX ("Beijing Heavy Hammer")Bi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM/IRBM(?)H-6N

Rumored/Claimed/Mentioned:
ModelTypeRangeLaunch Platform
DF-27Wave-rider HGVIRBMTEL
DF-19 (successor to DF-17)Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX (UVLS-adapted YJ-19)Air-breathing HCMMRBMUVLS cells of DDG
DF-XX (TEL-based variant of YJ-19/YJ-XX)Air-breathing HCMMRBMTEL
DF-XX (land-based variant of YJ-20)Bi-conical HGVMRBM(?)TEL
YJ-XX/DF-XXBi-conical HGV/Wave-rider HGVMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
YJ-XX/DF-XXAir-breathing HCMMRBM(?)/IRBM(?)H-20
DF-XX (Next-gen ICBM RV(?)/FOBS(?))Wave-rider HGV(?)ICBMTEL/Silo

Note:
- Despite having MaRV variants, the DF-16 and DF-26 are not considered for the tabulation.
- Classification of ranges for SRBM (<1000 kilometers), MRBM (1000-3000 kilometers), IRBM (3000-8000 kilometers), ICBM (>8000 kilometers), respectively.
DF-12(M-20), DF-15B, DF-21C/D, DF-16, DF-26B are all already Bi-conical Marvs. It is their technology especially the DF-12 that created the YJ-20. Why do we need a land-based version of the YJ-20?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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DF-12(M-20), DF-15B, DF-21C/D, DF-16, DF-26B are all already Bi-conical Marvs. It is their technology especially the DF-12 that created the YJ-20.

I don't consider the MaRVs-tipped BMs as hypersonics in this list. Also considering that the DF-12 and DF-15 are pretty much only found in training and retiring modes right now, I won't include them either.

Why do we need a land-based version of the YJ-20?

That's largely based on the "the UVLS version of XX missiles are going to/will have TEL counterparts" comment. Not necessarily true, and the list are always open for amendment.
 
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