China's SCS Strategy Thread

[Overbom]

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Well that's for sure a hell of a media spin I guess. If this kind of news came out of a certain neighboring supapowa country, this forum would clown them.

In the actual (with a bit of Western spin) real world, embarrassing failure

 

[sheen]

If this kind of news came out of a certain neighboring supapowa country, this forum would clown them

Being pro China doesn't mean we can't clown on them for stupid mistakes. If anything, best we do it rather than sweep it under the rug like a certain country.
Mistakes happen in Ops, own up to it and move on.

 

[votran]

I don’t understand why the PLAN and CCG engage in ramming at all.

Same diff with the PLAAF, zero idea what the deal is with the high risk intercepts.

Playing bumper cars with your billion RMB naval assets has got to be a form of mental retardation brainworm transferred through cross contamination via second rate backwards military like the Soviet/Russian Navy.

It’s utterly ridiculous and looks pathetic as well.

I don’t think the brass should be allowed to stop at stringing up a few COs, there should be major doctrinal reform and a reevaluation of whatever the fuck they’re trying to do in the SCS and more broadly what kind of military the PLA now is and wants to be.

it not the low or mid level comander issue , it the over all grovernment policy force PLAN hand lead to this dumb shjt

like : find a way to scare them without firing single shot or trigger US protect philipines agreement

that mean not only no shooting , but also no pointing gun to their face (ship/aircraft weapon system locked on) , no warning shot , no boarding (which require pointing gun to their face)

what the fk a navy can do without all of that beside water cannon and ramming ?

 

[GZDRefugee]

it not the low or mid level comander issue , it the over all grovernment policy force PLAN hand lead to this dumb shjt

like : find a way to scare them without firing single shot or trigger US protect philipines agreement

that mean not only no shooting , but also no pointing gun to their face (ship/aircraft weapon system locked on) , no warning shot , no boarding (which require pointing gun to their face)

what the fk a navy can do without all of that beside water cannon and ramming ?

I find it hard to believe that with all of China's R&D, they can't figure out a way to disable a ship using nonlethal means in the case of maritime police action.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

I find it hard to believe that with all of China's R&D, they can't figure out a way to disable a ship using nonlethal means in the case of maritime police action.

Other than damaging the propellers, there is no other way.

 

[GZDRefugee]

Other than damaging the propellers, there is no other way.

From the video posted, the PH patrol boat is open top. You can just fly a loitering munition with tear gas payload into the bridge.

 

[arthur2046]

164 dun goofed. And it continued the pursuit after it slammed into 3014. The captain prolly lost it all.

Someone drew this, and it appears to be a 3014 operational error, not 164

 

[oleracea]

I find it hard to believe that with all of China's R&D, they can't figure out a way to disable a ship using nonlethal means in the case of maritime police action.

China's naval R&D is focused on disabling high end warships, submarines, aircraft, using nonlethal means or otherwise. Overreacting and overcommitting resources over this is not in China's long term interests.

 

[zyklon]

I don’t understand why the PLAN and CCG engage in ramming at all.

Same diff with the PLAAF, zero idea what the deal is with the high risk intercepts.

Playing bumper cars with your billion RMB naval assets has got to be a form of mental retardation brainworm transferred through cross contamination via second rate backwards military like the Soviet/Russian Navy.

It’s utterly ridiculous and looks pathetic as well.

I don’t think the brass should be allowed to stop at stringing up a few COs, there should be major doctrinal reform and a reevaluation of whatever the fuck they’re trying to do in the SCS and more broadly what kind of military the PLA now is and wants to be.

China wants to deter foreign intrusions into and violations of its sovereign airspace and waters. In fact, the Chinese would even like to bar adversaries from conducting SIGINT, ELINT and MASINT missions just outside of Chinese airspace and waters.

However, China doesn't want things to escalate into full blown war or otherwise "get too hot," just yet.

Not to say the PLA can't fight and win against the Filipinos or anyone else in the neighborhood, but the Chinese authorities like to be wise and measured, especially to minimize the potential economic impact of any would be conflict.

So besides playing chicken, playing bumper cars, and other "less than lethal" measures, what is China to do?How should China update its doctrine to better secure the South China Sea?

 

[votran]

From the video posted, the PH patrol boat is open top. You can just fly a loitering munition with tear gas payload into the bridge.

that need balls to challenge US protect philipines promise paper , the thing CCP scare the most