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[FriedRiceNSpice]

Also quite negative.

On an individual level, robberies and rapes by Soviet soldiers were common place despite severe punishment. My grandfather had a story of a woman that was sexually assaulted by a Soviet soldier. She was asked to identify her attacker from a lineup of Soviet soldiers, and the soldier she identified was immediately executed even though she wasn't even sure she identified the right person.

On a national policy level, the Soviets had a policy of taking industrial and infrastructure equipment and other valuable materials and shipping them back home. When the ROC/KMT government demanded a stop to this, the Soviets claimed these were due to looting by local Chinese residents and engineered incidents to demonstrate such "looting". One family friend/co-worker was a survivor of one such incident. People in her area were told that food and supplies were going to be distributed for free at a warehouse. After a large number of people gathered at the warehouse, the Soviets opened fire with machine guns. Both of her parents were killed. She (a child at the time) survived under the bodies of the adults around her but the trauma caused her to have recurring psychotic episodes throughout her life.

I've heard very similar stories from older relatives that grew up in the Northeast. Despite being officially communist, the USSR has never been a friend to the PRC. Soviet/Russian imperialism was just as brutal and harsh as Western or Japanese imperialism.

 

[doggydogdo]

I've heard very similar stories from older relatives that grew up in the Northeast. Despite being officially communist, the USSR has never been a friend to the PRC. Soviet/Russian imperialism was just as brutal and harsh as Western or Japanese imperialism.

Soviets definitely did a lot of bad things to China; they told everyone they were going to nuke China and stationed millions of troops on China-Soviet-Mongolian border, but it's not really comparable to what the Japanese did because they actually did genocide Chinese.

 

[A potato]

I've heard very similar stories from older relatives that grew up in the Northeast. Despite being officially communist, the USSR has never been a friend to the PRC. Soviet/Russian imperialism was just as brutal and harsh as Western or Japanese imperialism.

At least the Soviet atleast actually helped us during the second sino japanese war even if it wasn't out of the kindness of their hearts. Unlike the west which Jiang Jieshi sacrificed his elite soldiers to gain support from but we now know there were helping Japan behind the scenes.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Soviets definitely did a lot of bad things to China; they told everyone they were going to nuke China and stationed millions of troops on China-Soviet-Mongolian border, but it's not really comparable to what the Japanese did because they actually did genocide Chinese.

In terms of lives lost and ruined, the Japanese did the most damage by far. But between the 3 historical evils of UK, Japan, and Czarist Russia/USSR, only one directly caused a permanent loss of territory. Additionally, if Stalin had gotten his way, Xinjiang would be independent and China would be divided along the Huai-Qinlin line between PRC and ROC.

At least the Soviet atleast actually helped us during the second sino japanese war even if it wasn't out of the kindness of their hearts. Unlike the west which Jiang Jieshi sacrificed his elite soldiers to gain support from but we now know there were helping Japan behind the scenes.

Stalin and the UK/US all supported the KMT out of self interest. Soviets provided the most aid early on in the war, as Stalin hoped the KMT could tie down the Japanese and divert Japanese attention away from the Soviet Far East (and also to counter German influence in China, as Germany was actually the primary patron of the KMT prior to 1938). After Stalin signed a non aggression pact with Japan, Soviet assistance significantly decreased. US/UK aid naturally ramped up following the Japanese invasion of Southeast Asia and the Pacific. Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt viewed the Chinese as meatshields against the Japanese, and only provided assistance when their own territories/colonial possessions were threatened by the Japanese.

 

[Phead128]

Joke’s on them. American racists can’t tell the difference between Sikhs and Muslims and good luck with them being able to tell Vietnamese apart from Chinese. Chances are they’ll just get brutally beaten together.

Not even I can tell Vietnamese, Chinese, and Koreans apart and I am ethnically Chinese so…

Americans can't tell the difference. To them, Jungle Chinese (Vietnamese) are no different than Kimchi Chinese (Korean), Hentai Chinese (Japanese), Island Chinese (Taiwanese),.... etc... We all gonna get our asses beat together.

 

[ansy1968]

Americans can't tell the difference. To them, Jungle Chinese (Vietnamese) are no different than Kimchi Chinese (Korean), Hentai Chinese (Japanese), Island Chinese (Taiwanese), .... etc... We all gonna get our asses beat together.

What about us... lol Banana Chinese

 

[AssassinsMace]

Speaking of how Chinese are blamed for what others do... I remember how when "blood diamonds" became a part of the lexicon, China became attached to the term when it was really the practices of DeBeers of Great Britain and of Israel. The Jewish lobby is having their Western minions working to undermine China in the world right now. It's only right this should be just the beginning of payback.

 

[gk1713]

In terms of lives lost and ruined, the Japanese did the most damage by far. But between the 3 evils of UK, Japan, and Czarist Russia/USSR, only one directly caused a permanent loss of territory. Additionally, if Stalin had gotten his way, Xinjiang would be independent and China would be divided along the Huai-Qinlin line between PRC and ROC.

The Czars family was wiped out, and the main origin of the invaders (Ukraine) are disappearing now.
Maybe UK and Japan should reach this level first then we can discuss about which one should be the worst among 3 evils.

 

[AndrewJ]

Great work from AI Jazeera, points out why the West wants to contain, or even declear war on China.

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The US relationship with China needs to be understood in the context of the capitalist world system. Capital accumulation in the core states, often glossed as the “Global North”, depends on cheap labour and cheap resources from the periphery and semi-periphery, the so-called “Global South”.
This arrangement is crucial to ensuring high profits for the multinational firms that dominate global supply chains. The systematic price disparity between the core and periphery also enables the core to achieve a large net-appropriation of value from the periphery through unequal exchange in international trade.
The second element that’s driving US hostility towards China is technology. Beijing has used industrial policy to prioritise technological development in strategic sectors over the past decade, and has achieved remarkable progress.
This poses a problem for the core states because one of the main pillars of the imperial arrangement is that they need to maintain a monopoly over necessary technologies like capital goods, medicines, computers, aircraft and so on. This forces the “Global South” into a position of dependency, so they are forced to export large quantities of their cheapened resources in order to obtain these necessary technologies. This is what sustains the core’s net-appropriation through unequal exchange.
China’s technological development is now breaking Western monopolies, and may give other developing countries alternative suppliers for necessary goods at more affordable prices. This poses a fundamental challenge to the imperial arrangement and unequal exchange.
The real reason for Western warmongering is because China is achieving sovereign development and this is undermining the imperial arrangement on which Western capital accumulation depends. The West will not let global economic power slip from its hands so easily.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I recommend reading Carter J. Eckert, Park Chung Hee and Modern Korea: The Roots of Militarism 1866-1945 (Harvard University Press, 2016), pages 5, 73-86

The Korean collaborationist officers in the Japanese forces was neither a small group nor isolated from mainstream Korean society. The Korean officers in the Japanese forces were not simply mercenary quislings as they had to be nominated. Colonial Korean schools dutifully carried out their assignment to nominate large numbers of their best and brightest students to become officer cadets. Commissioned officers were highly respected in 1930s Korean society, who treated them with pride as heroes within the local community. Of the 2nd batch of top students in the Manchurian Military Academy who were considered good enough to join the Japanese Military Academy in Tokyo, half were Koreans (including future President Park Chung Hee). Indeed, the influence of pro-Japanese elements grew even larger after WW2. ROK Military Academy superintendent and later Minister of Defence Chong Naehyok was also a graduate of the JMA, and he made sure that South Koreans were trained according to the same mould. According to interviews decades after the war, the Japanese officers who had graduated from the Academy with Park Chung Hee felt that the IJA spirit was still preserved in the ROK army.

Park Chung Hee himself went by Takagi Masao 高木正雄 for his entire youth.

He also thanked ex Imperial Japanese generals for treating him so well when he was in the IJA.

At a state dinner in Tokyo in November 1961, Park made a point to find and thank General Nagumo Shinichirō (南雲慎一郎), the former commandant of the academy, for his time there.