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Moonscape

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TBH, between Trump's synchronized lines of effort pushing for a trade deal with China, as well as a Russo-Ukrainian ceasefire by way of China, on top of his 'slip' concerning
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There's a not insignificant chance that Trump is aiming for a "grand bargain" with Beijing.

Not necessarily a bad idea, if at all, but hard to achieve, and even harder to implement and consummate.

What, if anything, would China be willing to give the US for US acquiescence to immediate unification?

I actually don't think China would give much because: 1. unification is inevitable sooner or later, and 2. unification right now is not necessarily significantly more desirable than unification in 5 or 10 years.
 

Phead128

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What, if anything, would China be willing to give the US for US acquiescence to immediate unification?

I actually don't think China would give much because: 1. unification is inevitable sooner or later, and 2. unification right now is not necessarily significantly more desirable than unification in 5 or 10 years.
For reference, China lost Beijing (sixteen prefectures) for over 400 years (longer than US has been independent by 2X), and yet still recovered it after 400 years. US is a speck of dust in terms of China's timeline for reunification. China has patience, and is not content about Taiwan only, but the entirety of East Asia from Han River valley to Kanto plains has to be rid of US influence. It doesn't think narrowly in short time frames like 5-10 years and only Taiwan.
 

zyklon

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I actually don't think China would give much because: 1. unification is inevitable sooner or later

Donald J. Trump is a political outlier by the standards and norms of the American presidency.

To put it succinctly: Trump is erratic and unconventional, but open to suggestions that his predecessors would shy away from.

There's a reason why some of our Chinese friends call him: 川建国同志. However, Trump will not occupy the Oval Office indefinitely.

The issue of Taiwan need not be resolved by January 20, 2029, but Beijing isn't going to leave the opportunity that is Trump unexplored.




2. unification right now is not necessarily significantly more desirable than unification in 5 or 10 years.

In
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, Xi Jinping stated:

着眼长远,两岸长期存在的政治分歧问题终归要逐步解决,总不能将这些问题一代一代传下去。

In
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, Xi Jinping stated:

两岸长期存在的政治分歧问题是影响两岸关系行稳致远的总根子,总不能一代一代传下去。

Regardless of how the rest of us might feel about if, when and/or how the issue that is Taiwan ought to be resolved, the powers that be — who are closer to retirement than most of us here — are not immune to a sense of urgency in this instance.
 

supersnoop

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For reference, China lost Beijing (sixteen prefectures) for over 400 years (longer than US has been independent by 2X), and yet still recovered it after 400 years. US is a speck of dust in terms of China's timeline for reunification. China has patience, and is not content about Taiwan only, but the entirety of East Asia from Han River valley to Kanto plains has to be rid of US influence. It doesn't think narrowly in short time frames like 5-10 years and only Taiwan.
It's funny whenever Americans bring up the made up by them 2027 reunification timeline...
It's like Chinese waited 99 years for the return of HK. A treaty signed by a monarchy, then went through 2 successive massive revolutions, and a foreign invasion, and they just waited it out. DXP signed all the agreements for the handover, was an old man already, knowing full well that he might not see the day (and he did not), but still did not jump the gun. However, definitely, totally, Chinese/XJP are totally going to jump at this arbitrary 2027 thing that some white dude think tank came up with.
 
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