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[Ringsword]

Didn’t the same guy also claim that non of the kills were air to air? Why is he bitching about this all of a sudden if that’s not the case?

I have several indian news shows on my TV stream and I do watch them -I am a strong guy but albeit only 5 mins at a time-and very definitely the failure of Op. Sindoor is being revealed even in india especially by opposition and I can predict as the sordid truth comes out then the indian defeat will be attributed to <white>NATO not them yellowy chinki Chinese -it's totally predictable and makes the jaihinds feel alot better about the whole thing

 

[gelgoog]

The GE 414 is meant to be used in Tejas Mk 2.
It is the same engine used in the Super Hornet and Gripen NG. It is a decent engine. Basically Gen 4.5. I highly doubt the US will do full tech transfer to India. What might happen is something similar to the deal of the GE 404 with Sweden as RM12. Local assembly of engines and transfer of technology to manufacture the cold section of the engines.

For AMCA the Indians are trying to get deals with France, the UK, or Japan to get a Gen 5 engine.

 

[AlexYe]

Indians again … (we need a facepalm-Emoji)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948267657041457369

I read the article and its confused on its own

'It was the Chinese who developed this tactic' Okay nice? But then
'Chinese have taught Pakistan this tactic' 'Chinese learned/copied it from Nato'
Bruh
The need to label everything chinese even tactics 'copy' of the west, and is this a very round about way of saying that it wasnt China/pakistan that beat us but 'superior white western nato tactics'?
Apparently this is what they are referring to

For AMCA the Indians are trying to get deals with France, the UK, or Japan to get a Gen 5 engine.

They signed a deal with Safran about it, co-developing a new 120kN engine(I dont think its been approved yet from france tho)

 

[Sardaukar20]

TBH, provided that this plan actually does go through - If there's one thing that the Jai Hinds "win" versus China, it'd be this.

Like, what's the purpose of retaining the J-7s in the high double-digits if not in the low-100s in the PLAAF for? There are no other modern combat warplanes in the PLAAF that is single-engined other than the J-10 family, and there will never be manned single-engine combat warplanes in the PLAAF, going forward.

The trainer fleet should've been fully converted to the JL series by now, and not clinging onto holdovers with origins in the mid-Cold War era.

This is especially as we're already in the "J-35A should start replacing the J-10(A/B) family" stage now, there really is no more reason to retain the J-7s.

There is a difference. The PLAAF had already retired their J-7s in 2023 from frontline service. Belated? Yes. Nevertheless, those J-7s still have some usefulness after retirement. They can be used as low cost trainers and maybe target drones. As long as the PLAAF can still maintain them.

The Indian Airforce OTOH is only just retiring their Mig-21s from frontline service. What they want to do with those Mig-21s is up to them. They could use them as reserves, trainers, target drones, sell them, or just scrap them. I won't be surprised if they suddenly float around ideas to work with Russia to refurbish their retired Mig-21s and offer to sell them to third nations.

 

[Sardaukar20]

Quite ironic because the IAF has been really hyping up its exercises with NATO/West. Tacit admission that they didn't learn anything from taking part in those ops.

Yeah. The Indians had been boasting about their numerous joint training exercises with the US, UK, Japan, France, etc. So what have India picked up from those exercises?

Why is Pakistan able to pick up NATO tactics from China, who had "copied them" from NATO? While didn't India, who had directly trained with NATO countries failed to pick up NATO tactics? For a nation that routinely calls itself a great military power, this is quite damning.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I have several indian news shows on my TV stream and I do watch them -I am a strong guy but albeit only 5 mins at a time-and very definitely the failure of Op. Sindoor is being revealed even in india especially by opposition and I can predict as the sordid truth comes out then the indian defeat will be attributed to <white>NATO not them yellowy chinki Chinese -it's totally predictable and makes the jaihinds feel alot better about the whole thing

I just found the cope evolution to be really amusing. It is one thing to seethe and cope but another thing altogether to come up with wildly different implausible explanations for your failures. On Monday it’s that Pakistan shot down drones, not fighters, on Tuesday it’s no jets were lost, on Wednesday it’s that they were downed by useless HQ-9B missiles, then on Thursday it’s the planes fell due to maintenance issues, and then on Friday it’s back to Pakistan hit towed decoys again… All the while family of farmera who were killed in secondary explosions from the Rafale carcass are suing the Indian government who are mum about the whole thing…

As for China providing regurgitated NATO training to Pakistan, I don’t see how that’s necessary since they’ve been getting it first hand for around 50 years?



But either way it is native grown PLAAF doctrine, not NATO one, that played the biggest role on May 7th. First of all no NATO force fields AAM with similar NEZ and flight profile as the PL-15, so you can’t expect them to develop this sort of tactic. Second of all the U.S. has tier system for Allie’s and heavily restrict use of ECM as part of rules of engagement for countries that aren’t Five Eyes or Israel. PAF found out first hand during Shaheen 2019.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Indians again … (we need a facepalm-Emoji)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948267657041457369

Didn’t the same guy also claim that non of the kills were air to air? Why is he bitching about this all of a sudden if that’s not the case?

The Jai Hinds can go with either of the following two ways:

Way #1 - Admit that the IAF lost to the PAF -> Operation Sindoor was a failure -> The IAF learnt zero jacksh1t from all of their joint exercises with NATO air forces for the past many years -> The PAF (and the PLAAF) are better than and superior to the IAF

Way #2 - Deny that the IAF suffered any losses against the PAF -> The IAF shot down/destroyed many PAF warplanes -> Operation Sindoor was a resounding success -> The IAF is way better than and superior to NATO air forces, PAF (and the PLAAF) -> JAI HIND!!!

Given we've a good understanding on what the Jai Hinds are like, I think the way of choice for them is clear.

 

[zyklon]

The real question at this point is did they have white servants and beggars in Vedic India as well?

Servants of ancient societies were generally speaking what modern societies call: slaves.

In that regard,

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of Nayagram Pandit Raghunath Murmu Government College has hypothesized that

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may have been enslaved in Vedic India:

The word ‘dāsa’ in the Ṛgveda generally stands for the opponents of the āryas. It is possible that when the dāsas were vanquished in battle and taken prisoners they were treated as slaves.

As such, Comrade @siegecrossbow, the question you may need to ask is: were these 'dasas' white?

Regardless, the mighty instruments of Indic soft power have already hinted to the arrival, if not the return of white servants en masse to India by 2030:

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If we're to have a more serious conversation on the Indian military: it recently dawned on me that the Indian armed forces mostly exist to shore up Indian national identity, and to keep separatists at bay, rather than to deter and battle supposed foreign enemies.

Case in point, Operation Blue Star:

Generally speaking, the armed forces of undeveloped, yet populous countries like Nigeria and Indonesia tend to be internally, rather than externally oriented.

If we're to consider just how diverse India is in terms of

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, among other things, New Delhi isn't going to be an exception to this rule, even if they aspire to present themselves as globally relevant.

While we rightfully laugh at the absurdities of Indian propaganda, as well as the Hindutva useful idiots who embrace and propagate such nonsense, there's value from the perspective of the Indian authorities to sustain these surreal charades for shoring up Indian national identity, especially when the very concept of India is in fact an artificial construct at its very core.

To put it succinctly: delusional Indian takes are essential to keeping their contrived postcolonial concoction of a country physically intact, for now.

 

[AlexYe]

Man that 2030 video was unreal to see 'Indian rupee replaced the Dollar' they werent even accepting it, the 'beggars' on the streets were perfectly fine and specifically 'white girls'
I wonder if there a legitimate detrimental impact on the mindset of the people from these bollywood movies.

To put it succinctly: delusional Indian takes are essential to keeping their contrived postcolonial concoction of a country physically intact, for now.

I forgot the historian's article about subcontinent issues I read years ago, but I remember his line about India country as an anomaly,
In his opinion the bigger mistake brits made leaving india was not that they divided india into 2, but that they didnt divide it down further (more smaller states). In his view Sikhs-Rajistan, the 'ex chinese states like Sikkim etc' , the southern states (tamils etc) and eastern bengal etc should have been separate with mostly landlocked hindu majority in the centre.

 

[siegecrossbow]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948393745855938810

Here we go again! SAC and J-35E be like…