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[GiantPanda]

On wiki, it stated that India has 15k Akash missile. Even with low accuracy, it should be a concern too.

That is alot of missiles.

I find it hard to believe India can manufacture 15K of anything in the weapons sector. They can't build much of anything including a standard assault rifle.

Inflation factored into this price increase for the Boeing P-8, but almost certainly, so did corruption!

Less than a month into his second term, the illustrious leader of the United States, its 45th and 47th President, the great Donald J. Trump

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of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA).

For those who are unfamiliar: FCPA is or was legislation intended to deter American companies from engaging in bribery abroad. However, President Trump considered it detrimental:


Some Indian officials almost assuredly took notice, and hit up Boeing to get their fair share or an even bigger share: bribery is after all a routine business practice when transacting with the Indian MOD.

Now India can't afford as many MPAs thanks to President Trump's decision to retreat from combating global corruption!

Corruption is of course an issue. But it seems they do not have a grasp on any kind of efficiency even when all you needed to do was plan procurement.

They botched the purchase of the C-17 by being late on an option to buy 16. The C-17 line is now retired so they are stuck at 11.

 

[NorthKimBestKim]

On wiki, it stated that India has 15k Akash missile. Even with low accuracy, it should be a concern too.

That is alot of missiles.

Wiki is full of Phall Sappart Brigades editing any article with lies 24 / 7 that has something to do with Hindutva. Actually, even articles that have less with Hindutva. Wiki is useless. It's a pathetic missile that sad Armenia had to take, as Russian Federation and North Kim The Boss Man Forces are busy fighting against Imperial Terror Alliance, so Russia needs missiles, so there is not much left for Armenia against Azeris. But having Akash is actually worse, because it gives you some kind of false security. If you have Akash, you actually have zero and nothing.

Also, the article on Wiki is some Aviation Week crap citing the newspaper "The End-ia" from 2011 or 2012. I mean: What The Actual F#ck.

 

[supersnoop]

Is it fair to look down on Akash solely based on looks?
It looks like it is from the 60's/70's Kub/Gainful, or something like Bloodhound
I mean, we can't go solely by looks, but what modern SAM uses ramjets? They are just so heavy.

 

[CMP]

Is it fair to look down on Akash solely based on looks?
It looks like it is from the 60's/70's Kub/Gainful, or something like Bloodhound
I mean, we can't go solely by looks, but what modern SAM uses ramjets? They are just so heavy.

I'm not looking down on it based on looks. I don't even know what it looks like. I'm looking down on it based on operational range.

 

[supersnoop]

I'm not looking down on it based on looks. I don't even know what it looks like. I'm looking down on it based on operational range.

My post was not meant to be a reply. It's an actual question.
I find it strange that a missile deployed in the 2000's would still be designed in such a way. Is this a fair criticism?
It's like, no one is designing planes with the center nose intake anymore like a MiG-21
I mean, credit for having a finished product, but is the design indicative of the actual industrial ability?

 

[CMP]

My post was not meant to be a reply. It's an actual question.
I find it strange that a missile deployed in the 2000's would still be designed in such a way. Is this a fair criticism?
It's like, no one is designing planes with the center nose intake anymore like a MiG-21
I mean, credit for having a finished product, but is the design indicative of the actual industrial ability?

Actual industrial ability. Or being shit at design. Or both.

 

[pokepara]

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Didn’t Twitter arm chair generals claim that they did well during the recent Kashmir conflict? What’s going on here?

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(2023):

India’s Akash (Sky) surface-to-air missile is based on 1968’s 2K12 “Kub” (NATO reporting name SA-6 Gainful). Indian Akash SAM set the requirements of being able to engage aerial targets flying at speeds of Mach 1 at altitudes of 5 km at ranges up to 20 km, with a single shot kill probability of at least 65%.

That was what they were AIMING for?!? Is this just to shoot down their own helicopters!?

The Akash system requires several types of radar to work, that’s the biggest challenge of this system from the 1968s developmental SA-6 to the Indian Akash SAM. It consists of VHF and Early warning radar based on 1960s technology.

Reliability issues:

Many Akash squadrons reported frequent unserviceability of mobile surface-to-air Akash Missile system and long duration downtime, which means that the missiles are dysfunctional and may not be cocked and loaded against the enemy in contingency.

More than a month later, another squadron reported cracks on the air intake caps of missiles. An investigation by Firstpost revealed that the incidents were followed by other squadrons reporting frequent unserviceability of mobile surface-to-air Akash Missile system and long duration downtime, which means that the missiles are dysfunctional and may not be cocked and loaded against the enemy in contingency

at least three squadrons of Akash in February 2019 reported that the missile system remained down or simply broken and sometimes even out of order during 90% of the time since their date of commissioning. These squadrons were commissioned between 2013-2015 to counter Chinese aggression.

Expensive:

But delays in its development have made the 20-kilometre-range missile prohibitively expensive and the Indian army has already begun to look for alternatives in Germany, France and the UK, the report said.

One Akash under development, which comprised four missile batteries, was pegged at $187.5 million dollars in 1985 but had escalated to a current cost of $416 million dollars, the report said.

Insufficient:

Another problem was the limited speed of the missile which is about Mach 2, useful to target enemy aircraft but not enough for missiles, which travel at more than three times that speed, the report said.

But the report said the missile’s response to unknown, multiple targets is in doubt because it had only been tested on known, single targets.

Man, I always hate to be harsh to India, but reading this article is like reading a comedy.

Though a final series of trials are scheduled for June 2004, the military does not see Akash being inducted with technical faults, the report added.

I assume that's a typo and they mean 2024. So they're trying to unload their crap onto Brazil?

 

[gelgoog]

So they decided to clone the Kub at a time the Buk, it's successor, was already obsolete.

That is amazingly bad even by Indian standards.

 

[Gloire_bb]

So they decided to clone the Kub at a time the Buk, it's successor, was already obsolete.

That is amazingly bad even by Indian standards.

Numba van in a desperate race to catch up with Iranian proxies.

 

[supersnoop]

So they decided to clone the Kub at a time the Buk, it's successor, was already obsolete.

That is amazingly bad even by Indian standards.

This is basically the heart of my question, I simply cannot see the logic of producing something like this unless you have to.

I’m reminded of 90’s Chengdu AC, people would be sick of the “J-7 variant of the month”. It was starting to worry people that they were not up to the task of producing the JF-17 or J-10.