The War in the Ukraine

gelgoog

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If you mean Geran, I don't think they are sensitive to EW?
They use GLONASS jamming or spoofing. Russia counters this with the KOMETA GLONASS module with multiple antennas.

And by lasers, I guess you mean Tryzub, which they started marketing a few months ago?
Lasers have some promise but such systems are still crude. The best mobile ones are the Chinese systems. But I doubt Ukraine will be getting those.

As for bullet spray that should mainly be Flakpanzer Gepard, problem seem to be they aren't all that cheap, there seem to be some $500 cost per bullet, Germany ships first batch of new Gepard ammo to Ukraine and with production rates in the order of magnitude of 100,000 per year that's only a couple of hundred reloads.
The new flight paths the drones use are above the range of Gepard. Good luck intercepting them on the dive.
 

bebops

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How many Geran can Russia produce per day? I am thinking if they can produce 500/day, then launch 300 Geran at Ukraine every single day.

Ukraine will no doubt run out of antidefense.
 

Soldier30

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Russian kamikaze drones "Geran-2" struck the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office in Odessa. There may have been strikes on other objects. Judging by the video of Odessa residents, the drones came from the sea to attack. Some drones were shot down with small arms, as they were flying at a low altitude. It is worth noting that there is no missile air defense in the video, perhaps it is on the outskirts of the city.

 

Sinnavuuty

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Russian kamikaze drones "Geran-2" struck the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office in Odessa. There may have been strikes on other objects. Judging by the video of Odessa residents, the drones came from the sea to attack. Some drones were shot down with small arms, as they were flying at a low altitude. It is worth noting that there is no missile air defense in the video, perhaps it is on the outskirts of the city.

The Geran-2 interception at 00:30 was due to the deployment of an interceptor drone that Zelensky called a solution to Russia's drone attacks.
 

Sinnavuuty

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3M22 Zircon hypersonic anti-ship cruise missile launch to target with max speed.
I still have serious doubts about whether this is really the Zirkon
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Sinnavuuty

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If U.S. Gives Ukraine Long-Range Missiles, What Besides JASSM-ER Could Hit moscow​


Early variants of the AGM-158A (considering launch points from F-16AM or Su-24M bases operating near Konotop) pose a threat to numerous military, industrial, and chemical installations in the European part of Russia, reaching as far as Shchyokino.
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In contrast, the low-altitude AGM-158B JASSM-ER—a more advanced version—has a range that can cover the capital of Chuvashia, Cheboksary, Vologda, and even St. Petersburg. However, these figures are not absolute and depend on several factors:
– Depth of missile launch zones in Ukrainian airspace
– Low-altitude flight paths
– Radar evasion (e.g., evading low-altitude sectors of air defense radar coverage)

These paths are planned in real time, taking into account the positions of air defense systems, whose radar activity is continuously tracked by ICEYE radar reconnaissance satellites.

In practice, the effective strike depth tends to be limited to:
– 250–300 km for the AGM-158A
– 650–800 km for the AGM-158B JASSM-ER

Currently deployed tactical aviation platforms can launch a single salvo of 40–60 JASSM/JASSM-ER missiles.

The AGM-158A/B variants can also be equipped with cluster munitions or thermobaric warheads, depending on the mission.
These missiles are capable of disabling command and control infrastructure, hardened aircraft shelters, and military-industrial complexes. The destructive capacity of a single JASSM warhead far exceeds that of floating munitions, such as the "Lyutyi" kamikaze drones, often by an order of magnitude or more.

How will Russia respond to this if the JASSM-ER is indeed deployed to Ukraine?
 
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