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tamsen_ikard

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If U.S. Gives Ukraine Long-Range Missiles, What Besides JASSM-ER Could Hit moscow​


Early variants of the AGM-158A (considering launch points from F-16AM or Su-24M bases operating near Konotop) pose a threat to numerous military, industrial, and chemical installations in the European part of Russia, reaching as far as Shchyokino.
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In contrast, the low-altitude AGM-158B JASSM-ER—a more advanced version—has a range that can cover the capital of Chuvashia, Cheboksary, Vologda, and even St. Petersburg. However, these figures are not absolute and depend on several factors:
– Depth of missile launch zones in Ukrainian airspace
– Low-altitude flight paths
– Radar evasion (e.g., evading low-altitude sectors of air defense radar coverage)

These paths are planned in real time, taking into account the positions of air defense systems, whose radar activity is continuously tracked by ICEYE radar reconnaissance satellites.

In practice, the effective strike depth tends to be limited to:
– 250–300 km for the AGM-158A
– 650–800 km for the AGM-158B JASSM-ER

Currently deployed tactical aviation platforms can launch a single salvo of 40–60 JASSM/JASSM-ER missiles.

The AGM-158A/B variants can also be equipped with cluster munitions or thermobaric warheads, depending on the mission.
These missiles are capable of disabling command and control infrastructure, hardened aircraft shelters, and military-industrial complexes. The destructive capacity of a single JASSM warhead far exceeds that of floating munitions, such as the "Lyutyi" kamikaze drones, often by an order of magnitude or more.

How will Russia respond to this if the JASSM-ER is indeed deployed to Ukraine?
Subsonic jassm missiles are baby food for Russian S-400s, even buk can intercept them.
 

gelgoog

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Sending such long range weapons to Ukraine would be against the MTCR:
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If the US did that then there would be nothing preventing Russia from providing long range Kalibr and Oniks to Iran, Venezuela, Algeria, Sudan, Egypt, Myanmar, or the Houtis.

The Red Sea, the Indian Sea, the Mediterranean, and the Caribbean would become areas of danger for the US Navy.
 

Stealthflanker

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Sending such long range weapons to Ukraine would be against the MTCR:

Yeah, kinda risky move. Like best they can do is to prop Ukraine's own missile production (and hope it's not proliferate outside).

Question remains of course on Ukraine's current own industrial base atm. Russians seems to Kalibrating and Iskandering those recently.
 

W20

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"If the US did that then there would be nothing preventing Russia from providing long range Kalibr and Oniks to Iran, Venezuela, Algeria, Sudan, Egypt, Myanmar, or the Houtis."

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"nothing" (!)

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

The argument between Vladimir P in Moscow and his cousin Vladimir Z in Kiev has very clear limits.

Hence the anger of many Russian patriots. NATO can do whatever it wants because, since Vladimir Putin is a Zionist, he has left Russia with no bargaining chip.
 

Soldier30

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The first footage of combat work in Ukraine, the new Russian heavy self-propelled flamethrower TOS-3 "Dragon". TOS-3 "Dragon" is produced by "Omsktransmash", it was created on the chassis of the T-80BV tank, which provides 25% greater mobility compared to the TOS-1A "Solntsepek", based on the T-72 tank. The TOS-3 "Dragon" now has only 15 guides for launching missiles. The TOS-1 "Buratino" has 30 guides for missiles, the TOS-1A "Solntsepek" - 24, and the wheeled TOS-2 "Tosochka" has already made 18. Reducing the number of guides reduces the risk of detonation of ammunition when attacking drones. In the West, the TOS-3 fire system is compared in effectiveness to tactical nuclear weapons. The extended launch container allows the use of modernized thermobaric rockets TBS-3M at a range of up to 15 km. TOS-3 "Dragon" is equipped with additional protection, armor and electronic warfare equipment.

 

Soldier30

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Footage of strikes by Russian FPV drones, the Rubicon test center, on Ukrainian diesel locomotives used to transport military cargo. The locomotives were hit by drones near the village of Belozerske near Dobropolye in Donbas. This is approximately 27 km from the front line. The drone models are not reported. As a result of the drone attacks, some Ukrainian trains were derailed, the damaged equipment is shown at the end of the video.

 

Soldier30

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Footage of strikes by Russian Geran-2 drones on the Ukrainian 36D6 radar. The 36D6 all-round radar was developed in the USSR and is intended for use in the S-300 air defense systems and other models. The 36D6-M radar is capable of determining the nationality of an air object, automatically tracking targets, and can operate in autonomous control center mode. The video was filmed near the village of Borzna in the Chernihiv region of Ukraine. As a result of strikes by Geran-2 drones with an optical guidance system, the Ukrainian 36D6 radar and escort vehicle were destroyed.

 
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