Footage of the strike of a Russian Iskander-M ballistic missile on a Ukrainian hangar near the settlement of Baratovka in the Nikolaev region of Ukraine. The hangar was used by the 35th separate marine brigade of Ukraine. Judging by the video, an Iskander-M missile with an air burst and a shrapnel warhead was used. Note the colossal amount of fragments; all objects within the radius of the missile explosion are damaged.
The War in the Ukraine
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Most of these drones get brought down by EW, lasers or bullet spray by some close range systems. Drone is cheap but it gets destroyed by cheap countermeasures too.
If Ukraine has to sacrifice patriot missile to bring down drones, then I see good value in trade off. Patriot missile is only used against bm or cruise missiles
If Ukraine has to sacrifice patriot missile to bring down drones, then I see good value in trade off. Patriot missile is only used against bm or cruise missiles
Episode of the assault by Russian troops on the village of Bessalovka in the Sumy region of Ukraine. The village was stormed on July 7 by units of the 56th Guards Airborne Assault Don Cossack Regiment and the Novorossiysk Guards Airborne Assault Mountain Unit. The assault was carried out by small groups with the support of aviation, artillery and drones. The groups entered in the morning and occupied strongholds of the Ukrainian army on the outskirts of the village. After that, the Ukrainian army sent reinforcements. As a result of the battle, the Ukrainian units were forced to retreat. The video has been shortened, the dead have been removed.
The Russians have changed their attack approach with Geran-2/3 drones, forcing Ukraine to deploy AMRAAMs, Patriots, NASAMS, and more SAMs to intercept the Russian drones.
That final nose dive is a game changer. They have to use expensive anti-defense to knock it down. The old ones just glide slowly straight to the target which can be intercepted with ak47..
In the terminal phase, the Geran-2/3's altitude is significantly higher, making interception by AKs and even SPAAGs impossible.
See here:
The drones fly these routes to force the Ukrainians to expend SAMs. This attack involved 718 drones and 13 missiles:
quitpathetic. 25% of ALL patriot.
And the AMRAAM missiles production rate is only 1600/year.
If we considar that russia ONLY make 500 shahed/day, and one shahed needs one AMRAAM, then it is clear the whole USA production enought for three days of air defence against Russia ONLY.
Reason of these complicated routes.
Force the defenders to use long range missiles,or keep dozens of airplanes in aur at any point of time.
say if they need to take done only 50 shahed with long range missiles then good, the whole USA yearly production enoguth for one month.
But I seriously doubt that 50 enought.
Few say that this is the for the USA, playing the same role as Britain .
In that case they can use NASAMS with Sidewinders or IRIS-T.
The US developed a kit to add IR guidance to Hydra rockets. APKWS II. But those they had were sent to Israel for the conflict with Iran to intercept Shaheds.
The UK is providing Ukraine with the Martlet missile.
Ukraine are also using Yak-52 propeller aircraft with shotguns I think.
The US developed a kit to add IR guidance to Hydra rockets. APKWS II. But those they had were sent to Israel for the conflict with Iran to intercept Shaheds.
The UK is providing Ukraine with the Martlet missile.
Ukraine are also using Yak-52 propeller aircraft with shotguns I think.
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If you mean Geran, I don't think they are sensitive to EW? And by lasers, I guess you mean Tryzub, which they started marketing a few months ago? As for bullet spray that should mainly be Flakpanzer Gepard, problem seem to be they aren't all that cheap, there seem to be some $500 cost per bullet, and with production rates in the order of magnitude of 100,000 per year that's only a couple of hundred reloads.
Another countermeasure should be FIM-92 Stinger, while these could initially be delivered in the thousands, it seem new production may still be around 50/month . And no doubt NASAMS AIM-120 AMRAAM are used against Gerans too, as Ukraine/partners has very much bragged about this.
F-16 should also be deployed against them at this point?
Then there's the obvious Tor, Buk, Tunguska and Strela, not sure there's still munitions produced for these or whether they are running dry?
Bottom line is that intercepting all these drones is a massive undertaking for Ukraine, with NATO struggling to keep up. As for now increased rationing is likely needed, meaning a drop in interception rates should be expected.
I think they run out of IR missiles as well.
There is a video showing an Israel using same old IR missile, needs to be close to lock on the shahed .
Problem is the Sidewinder and AIM-120 cost cose the same.
I am confident
about the low stocklevel of IR missiles as well.
New ones capable to lock on from kms already used, old ones can lock on large IR signatures.