PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

sunnymaxi

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Manufacturing output is NOT the equivalent of Missile production which will depend on Military Budget, Military priorities and doctrine. Iran basically gave up everything just to focus on Missiles. So, their missile count is disproportionally higher compared to pretty much any country.

If Iran has 3-5000 missiles, then China simply cannot have 10x or 30 thousand Ballistic missiles on land.

China most likely has 2X of Iran in missiles as the upper limit. Yes, they can produce more in times of War but they don't have 10x stockpile.
i never said, total manufacturing output automatically translate into missiles/weapons but the point is, there is no comparison between Iran and China.
 

tamsen_ikard

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i never said, total manufacturing output automatically translate into missiles/weapons but the point is, there is no comparison between Iran and China.
China has huge manufacturing output, but we need to see how much of that is devoted to actual weapons production. Actually very little.

China produces 30 million cars per year but barely produces 100 tanks. China's total Jet fighter production is like 150 per year. Again a very small number compared to its huge production of millions of chips, machinery, civillian ships, components and so on.

That's why I have been saying how China needs to increase its military budget to boost up the numbers produced per year. Current production per year is proportional to the low GDP % (1.5) China is spending on the military.

When you compare China's spending on infrastructure and how much roads, Bridges, rail China constructs or how much civillian vehicles, machines and other stuff they make, it becomes obvious that China is indeed producing very low numbers of weaponry compared to its potential.
 

bebops

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10x is hugely underestimated.

if you count both countries GDP PPP/Manufacturing output.. it is like 25x/65x.

absolutely no comparison. its an insult of China.

So China has 65x more missiles than Iran? I am talking about missile swarms/production on my last post.

I am not talking about GDP or total manufacturing output that includes EV cars, bridges, high speed trains etc.

"When you compare China's spending on infrastructure and how much roads, Bridges, rail China constructs or how much civillian vehicles, machines and other stuff they make, it becomes obvious that China is indeed producing very low numbers of weaponry compared to its potential."

China's military budget is a small piece in the national budget. Within the military budget, China wants to produce many things out of it including carrier, destroyers, warplanes so that leaves little money for missile production.
 
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PLAwatcher12

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US has great strength but most of the hardware are sitting back at home. Each carriers are only able to equip with 20-25 F35 so China can easily outnumber that in a local war. Even with 11 carrier, their F35 cannot outnumber China's 5th warplane.

The West keeps talking about experience is very important. To me, it is not as important as you think. Most advanced warplanes have AI embedded that supports the pilot. And whatever do they in the battlefield has gone through computer simulation many times that tells them how to deploy their pieces and how to achieve the best results..

China can easily exhaust any opponent's missile defense with large swarms after swarms. It is like Iran 10x.
Each carrier has around 14 F-35C onboard and the most carriers the US can deploy to a region is 2-3 so that is 28-42 F-35C the US can realistically have in Taiwan scenario. But given the fact China has hundreds of “carrier killers” (DF-21d) the US would try to stay atleast 1,000 nm from Chinas coast that is very risky for the F-35c to fly.
 

drowingfish

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China has huge manufacturing output, but we need to see how much of that is devoted to actual weapons production. Actually very little.

China produces 30 million cars per year but barely produces 100 tanks. China's total Jet fighter production is like 150 per year. Again a very small number compared to its huge production of millions of chips, machinery, civillian ships, components and so on.

That's why I have been saying how China needs to increase its military budget to boost up the numbers produced per year. Current production per year is proportional to the low GDP % (1.5) China is spending on the military.

When you compare China's spending on infrastructure and how much roads, Bridges, rail China constructs or how much civillian vehicles, machines and other stuff they make, it becomes obvious that China is indeed producing very low numbers of weaponry compared to its potential.
like you said, China spends a tiny proportion of its GDP, relative to other countries, on defence. What that means is if it wants, it can easily double or triple its defence spending. that it hasn't done so means it has determined what is being spent now is sufficient.
 

Dante80

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Each carrier has around 14 F-35C onboard and the most carriers the US can deploy to a region is 2-3 so that is 28-42 F-35C the US can realistically have in Taiwan scenario. But given the fact China has hundreds of “carrier killers” (DF-21d) the US would try to stay atleast 1,000 nm from Chinas coast that is very risky for the F-35c to fly.
How many F-35As could the US realistically have in a Taiwan scenario? (sic)
 

PLAwatcher12

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How many F-35As could the US realistically have in a Taiwan scenario? (sic)
Not alot. The phillpines house zero F-35, and Japan only houses less than 50 but those are up north so those are pretty nonexistent in any war and South Korea has none. So the most they could realistically do is 43 on their 3 carriers what is about the most they can deploy to any region at any given time. But given the fact that carriers would need to stay atleast 1,000 miles away from China to avoid sinking the F-35 would be close to useless against China.
 

Dante80

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Not alot. The phillpines house zero F-35, and Japan only houses less than 50 but those are up north so those are pretty nonexistent in any war and South Korea has none. So the most they could realistically do is 43 on their 3 carriers what is about the most they can deploy to any region at any given time. But given the fact that carriers would need to stay atleast 1,000 miles away from China to avoid sinking the F-35 would be close to useless against China.
How many F35s could the US realistically station and field in their own Kadena and Futenma air bases?
 

4Tran

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How many F35s could the US realistically station and field in their own Kadena and Futenma air bases?
It's probably zero. These bases are probably deemed too vulnerable to attack so the US won't base any F-35s or F-22s there. These planes need special facilities to ease maintenance so if these facilities don't exist now, then they'll probably have to be built before it's practical to transfer fighters there.
 

PLAwatcher12

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How many F35s could the US realistically station and field in their own Kadena and Futenma air bases?
They can field around 48-72 F-35 there but Futenma realistically cannot field alot due to runway limitations that’s why it’s mostly used for helicopters but given Kadena is 1,000 miles from China, 2 types of ballistic missiles can hit it DF-21 and DF-26 and some cruise missiles.
 
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