The US Army is also seeking this capability to increase magazine depth. I think most militaries have realized that in a high-intensity conflict the stockpile of traditional SAMs will get depleted fast, especially with the practice of firing 2+ interceptors for every 1 target to increase p(kill).
PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems
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The US Army is also seeking this capability to increase magazine depth. I think most militaries have realized that in a high-intensity conflict the stockpile of traditional SAMs will get depleted fast, especially with the practice of firing 2+ interceptors for every 1 target to increase p(kill).
If HQ-16F is an extended range HQ-16B, why put them on PLAAF sites...
This is a new SAM system, YLC-8E is one of its radar...
But i think we all have to wait its designation.
That seems like a very capable system, about time HQ-16 gets some serious upgrade! This shit looks expensive though.
Any idea of the HQ-16F missile size?
Has anyone written or taken an in-depth look at the performance of HQ-9 and HQ-16 during the Indo-Pak conflict last month?
From what I know it did decent shooting down missiles, including the storm shadow but it did struggle but Pakistan has little of them and is not layered so it’s hard to say it is a true representation. India claimed to destroy some but has showed no proof including no statalite proof that isn’t blurry
Elephant in the room.
HQ-16 isn't just "Chinese medium-range surface-to-air missile system", it's PLAGF high tier system. Their (current) medium range system is HQ-11.
Current short range SAM system for PLAGF is HQ-17(A).
625, pgz09 are a different thing, replacing them with PL-12/10 based system will be somewhat weird.
HQ-13 (combined gun/missle structure) is a thing in light bdes, which lack organic higher level SAM cover. Until now they were ¬naked to air threat out of manpad reach.
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Sounds like what I read. Maybe they simply got overwhelmed and saturated since Pak has limited number of them. For Islamabad, it seems like increasing the number of SAM launchers (especially ones capable of downing cruise missiles and loitering munitions) is more daunting than purchasing additional J-10s or J-35s.
Although a few BrahMos managed to penetrate, the majority were rerouted, or blinded by cyber warfare measures, as highlighted by the spokesperson of the Pakistani Armed Forces during a briefing.
Furthermore, while the authenticity of recent reports is still uncertain, the acquisition of the HQ-19 system would complement existing platforms like the HQ-9B, HQ-9P, and LY-80, significantly bolstering air defense capabilities.
Pakistan has limited numbers so they definitely got overwhelmed but they are also not layered and layered air defense systems perform better than non layered ones. I do agree that Pakistan should focus more on air defense systems