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Deino

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I am new to these things, so pardon my lack of knowledge about this, Jane is no longer what it was, it was what before?


Agreed. While there is hype going around for this year, I personally dont expect it to happen so soon. It be a huge surprise.


It could be they are copying what PAF put out last year in jan, they mentioned FC-31 in the presser.


Well, my point is that Jane's was once and for long the golden standard on credibility for any military news and for me it was a great honour to be asked to write for them on Chinese military aviation news! In fact it was a great time and I learnt a lot on how to post short summarised news stories, I appreciated on how they always checked the sources, preferred to be careful in case it was not 100% confirmed or if there was at least a minor chance of being wrong, so it wasn't allowed to be posted until proven or at least terms like reportedly, allegedly or based on XXX had to be added.

Then there were some internal changes, my editor was fired and replaced by a new one who often changed my text, added always his name additional or even in place of mine on-top of the reports as if he had written them and when they even "has some internal issues" on payment for more than a year I left!

By then I was replaced my an Indian, who is now responsible for the China news section and since then I think I do not need to tell you more ... at least IMO they totally lost its former glory!

As such I remain sceptical.

PS/Edit: The same author wrote this too and as it seems, only he saw this "unveiled" model of the "next generation JF-17 PFX"? ;)

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AlexYe

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Jane’s also said that J-20 uses KLJ-7A so it is not 100 percent legit.
Fair fair, Well I still dont expect F31s to happen this year, the original PAF statement came out in jan2024 but only recently after may conflict it getting the coverage/hype from various places. Could be intentional to spook others.

Sidenote
Curious I went to check IndianDefense on reddit and idrw and idk why they hate su57 so much, nearly all of them were trashing it and saying they need to get f35's OR Japanese engines for AMCA.

for me it was a great honour to be asked to write for them on Chinese military aviation news! In fact it was a great time and I learnt a lot on how to post short summarised news stories,
Oh wow, nice you used to work there! Good to read you initially had a good experience
replaced by a new one who often changed my text, added always his name additional or even in place of mine on-top of the reports as if he had written them and when they even "has some internal issues" on payment for more than a year I left!
Yikes thats a redflag, especially adding their name esp replacing yours i.e taking credit for your work. Hate that,
'payment issues' yeah been on the receiving end of that, can relate.
By then I was replaced my an Indian, who is now responsible for the China news section and since then I think I do not need to tell you more
Yikes red flag.

Completely fair skepticism tbh
 

siegecrossbow

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Fair fair, Well I still dont expect F31s to happen this year, the original PAF statement came out in jan2024 but only recently after may conflict it getting the coverage/hype from various places. Could be intentional to spook others.

Sidenote
Curious I went to check IndianDefense on reddit and idrw and idk why they hate su57 so much, nearly all of them were trashing it and saying they need to get f35's OR Japanese engines for AMCA.


Oh wow, nice you used to work there! Good to read you initially had a good experience

Yikes thats a redflag, especially adding their name esp replacing yours i.e taking credit for your work. Hate that,
'payment issues' yeah been on the receiving end of that, can relate.

Yikes red flag.

Completely fair skepticism tbh

It's because Western defense enthusiasts trash it and since they are the highest on the totem pole, their words are the gospel.
 

AlexYe

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It's because Western defense enthusiasts trash it and since they are the highest on the totem pole, their words are the gospel.
Smh, this is the same mentality that made people/Defense-watchers trash Chinese planes/equipment/missiles, even after this event they arent open to idea that they may have underestimated alot.
Also they were talking about india needing a 2-seater su57 variant not a single one, and Russia not having it.
 

SouthGround

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Fair fair, Well I still dont expect F31s to happen this year, the original PAF statement came out in jan2024 but only recently after may conflict it getting the coverage/hype from various places. Could be intentional to spook others.

Sidenote
Curious I went to check IndianDefense on reddit and idrw and idk why they hate su57 so much, nearly all of them were trashing it and saying they need to get f35's OR Japanese engines for AMCA.


Oh wow, nice you used to work there! Good to read you initially had a good experience

Yikes thats a redflag, especially adding their name esp replacing yours i.e taking credit for your work. Hate that,
'payment issues' yeah been on the receiving end of that, can relate.

Yikes red flag.

Completely fair skepticism tbh
It reminds me of the 2010s era PAKFA fanboys are still unmatched even today in their sheer amount of trash talking and mudslinging on every aviation forum.

They would generally shit on the J-20 at every available opportunity, pimp their Himalayas system and "active stealth" even more obnoxiously than Rafale fanboys do nowadays with SPECTRA.

As a sidejob, they would cook up endless memes about the Su-35 being an anti-stealth fighter with 400km detection range, that calmly eats F-35s.

I kinda miss those days man.
 

AlexYe

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As a sidejob, they would cook up endless memes about the Su-35 being an anti-stealth fighter with 400km detection range, that calmly eats F-35s.
Bruh :D just because they both have '35' in the name dont mean they cancel each other out, lool
I kinda miss those days man.
Paper conflicts vs the real ones today yeah
 

siegecrossbow

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Pakistani social media buzing..... :cool:

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Jai Hind analysts will argue that this is circumstantial evidence that existing gear performed poorly during conflict hence the need for upgrade.

PS I realized that I’ve been reading so much of their BS that I’m beginning to think like them. Maybe I should use it to my advantage and go into management next.
 
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Black Wolf

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Jai Hind analysts will argue that this is circumstantial evidence that existing gear performed poorly during conflict.

PS I realized that I’ve been reading so much of their BS that I’m beginning to think like them. Maybe I should use it to my advantage and go into management next.

And soon you will be hired by Google or Microsoft .... ;)
 
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