The War in the Ukraine

[Nill]

Of course they do. In Russian media anything Ukraine does is labeled "Terrorism". At the same time Russia claims to be attacking only military targets. No big surprise that after 3 years of such "propaganda" Russian society and public opinion has degraded to Nazi Germany of WW2.

There seem to be many definitions of Terrorism , one that i have read is politically motivated violence which is war, so it seems fine in that case.

 

[Soldier30]

Unique footage of the alleged hijacking of a Ukrainian LAV Super Bison armored personnel carrier by a Russian sabotage group. The location of the shooting is not reported. In the video, you can see a Ukrainian driver-mechanic running behind the armored personnel carrier, but he cannot catch up with it. It is possible that the Ukrainian servicemen simply forgot their comrade. We have previously published a video of the hijacking of a Ukrainian tank from the battlefield. LAV Super Bison armored personnel carriers have been produced in Canada since 2020

 

[Michael90]

Your post is woefully ignorant of the events of the Euromaidan uprising. Not sure if it was done on purpose or not.

You do realise they were actively killing Russian speaking population in Ukraine right? What's why the eastern parts separated. And then they were actively at war with eastern Ukraine. There is very little way Russian could have used pro Russians in Ukraine that time they were politically hijacked by the US and EU.

Nonesense..thats just another Russian propaganda. There were separatists elements in those regions who took up arms to fight the state proclaiming a seperate state. Which country on earth will allow a group of separatists to decide their country(might as well let Taiwan be a country then. Lol). Its similar to Uygur separatist fighters along with East Turkestan islamic party fighters who were clamouring for Xinjiang independence from the chinese state claiming they were suppresed and descriminated against and being ethnic cleansed by the evil Han Chinese. Lol In fact many countries even started chastising China for suppressing and genociding Muslims Uygurs in China(you remember that period i hope? Lol ). Those countries also relied on US propaganda for this. Just like you rely on Russian propaganda to make similar claims in those separatist regions in ukraine. Any country faced with separatists fighters like Ukraine faced with those regions will hit back hard to try and get rid of such elements be it China, India, Pakistan, Philippines, Turkey etc all these countries already did or still do actually. So those claims you made are void.

Moroever let's assume hypothetically for once that your claims were right and that Ukraine was targeting Russian speaking elements in Eastern Ukraine(be they separatists fighters or not) what is Russia's business there? Is Ukraine not a sovereign country ? Is Russia Ukraine's policeman?lol What business do they have in Ukraine's internal affairs? Or maybe any Ukrianian Russian speaking citizen is now considered a russian citizen? LMAO . Using your silly logic China would have long invaded most of her neighbors in Asia since at some point ethic Chinese speaking populations in those countries were also targeted for various reasons. You ever saw China use that as an excuse to invade countries in asia? Lol come on, if countries want to start using such silly excuses to invade others then half of the world will be at war with each other today. Lool

FINALLY, we have to be honest with ourselves. You only have to go back way before Russia's invasion years ago. Putin had long been claiming Ukraine should not be a country and questioning Ukraine's sovereignty in the first place..according to Putin, Ukraine is not a country , just a lost Russian territory that should be taken back, everything else is just a smokescreen.lol If you don't understand this then you have already fallen for Russia's propaganda. Lol Just go and watch many of his old videos about Ukraine then you will understand this.

 

[Sinnavuuty]

Moroever lets assume hypothetically for once that your claims were right and that Ukraine was targeting Russian speaking elements in Ezstern Ukraine(be they separatists fighters or not) what is Russias business there? Is ukraine not a sovereign country ? Is Russia Ukraine's policeman? What business do they have inUkraine's internal affairs? Or maybe Ukrianian Russian speaking is now considered a russian citizen? LMAO . Using your silly logic China would have long invaded most of her neighbors in Asia since at some point ethic Chinese speaking populations in those countries were also targeted for various reasons. You ever saw China use that as an excuse to invade countries in asia? Lol come on if countries want to start using such silly excuses to invade others then half of the world will be at war with each other. Lool

I laughed a lot at this here. Also, you are very emotional, I suggest caution

 

[Overbom]

Have Russians retaliated with 200 missiles following this successful SBU attack on Russian bombers?

Russia has retaliated by somehow still having enough face to attend the talks for ceasefire.

That's all you need to know about you-know-who's red lines and that funny throw nukes theory lol

 

[iewgnem]

Of course they do. In Russian media anything Ukraine does is labeled "Terrorism". At the same time Russia claims to be attacking only military targets. No big surprise that after 3 years of such "propaganda" Russian society and public opinion has degraded to Nazi Germany of WW2.

That's the point isn't it, if you want to fight a protracted war you need a way to maintain public support for it, being accused of being too soft is much better than being accused of doing too much, you need public pressure to push in the direction of continuing the war, not ending it.

I would save application of Godwin's Law to if and when Lviv looks like Gaza.

 

[sdkan]

Russia has retaliated by somehow still having enough face to attend the talks for ceasefire.

That's all you need to know about you-know-who's red lines and that funny throw nukes theory lol

The retaliation would be grand and impossible to prepare for in a few hours.

 

[gelgoog]

Nonesense..thats just another Russian propaganda. There were separatists elements in those regions who took up arms to fight the state proclaiming a seperate state.

Actually it was a loyalist revolt against the Euromaidan coup. The rightfully elected President of Ukraine, Yanukovich, had his base of support mainly in the so called rebel areas.
Eastern Ukraine was also the region most integrated with Russia economically, and they stood the most to lose with EU integration.

 

[Zichan]

Focusing on point defence is already giving up 90% of your interception opportunities, that’s equivalent to thinking beefing up the defences of warships is to just spam more CIWS turrets.

The biggest issue with Russia is its huge size and massive land boarders with hostile forces. They also lack investment in internal security. China doesn’t spend more on internal security than the PLA budget for no reason.

But both of those are massive systematic issues that cannot be easily solved even in the medium term, if ever. So the best way to deal the risks of such attacks isn’t to play purely defence but to go on the offensive at source and impose unacceptable costs on the attackers such that they are forced to show restraint.

On the tactical level, bare minimum additional security features should be implemented at a minimum can include:
- banning large commercial vehicles from coming within 20km of sensitive military sites, with strict police enforcement of that rule.
- imposing cell signal blackout of 5-10km around such sites with jammers operating 24/7.
- routine randomised repositioning of aircraft and other mobile high value assets.
- point defences (laser, microwave, hard rounds and missiles, maybe even interceptor drones) installed to cover the whole perimeter of such sites, with a zero tolerance, shoot first ask questions later approach to any unidentified flying objects that comes within 1km of the perimeter.
- space aimed satellite signal jammers to disrupt starlink based C&C of drones. Potentially airship based persistent medium altitude jammers designed to further disrupt satellite comms with low altitude drones
- install rapid deploying helium barrage balloon anchored net networks around the base perimeter and maybe also tactically within the base such that if alerted of a drone swarm attack, the balloons will deploy within seconds to erect anti-drone nets dozens of metres high around the base and inside. The nets should be fine enough to be functionally invisible to drone based sensors. With signal disruption preventing man-in-the-loop command, it should prove very effective at stopping drones en mass.

But even with all of that, you cannot guarantee to be able to stop drone swarm attacks.

You skipped the most obvious one: hardened aircraft shelters. Invulnerable to small drones.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Russia has retaliated by somehow still having enough face to attend the talks for ceasefire.

That's all you need to know about you-know-who's red lines and that funny throw nukes theory lol

I think the focus should be to boost internal security to prevent such things from happening again. Retaliation will come but it should not be knee jerk. It should be well planned methodical and should serve a purpose such as degrading ukraine in certain ways. Angry retaliation will only waste valuable weapons.