Never said this is a HQ-9, I just said this is definitely not a PL-15. It's probably some medium range active homing SAM missile like the HQ-16FE or HQ-22
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Do you see those screw heads? Not to mention those pictures are clearly not of the same device that was picked up by the Indians.
All this talk of the PL-15.
The most amazing thing to me is that while Indians found multiple PL-15E fragments there is absolutely nothing found from the IAF. No Meteor, no R-77, no MICA, no Astra. Nothing.
They had BVR with the MKI way before Pakistan so in theory they should be the more experienced side. Even if you miss, you can at least get a few shots off.
But the reality as I see it is they are unable to engage at all.
Their air force basically is grounded because they can even detect their enemies or can't get close enough to detect before a PL-15 comes raining down on them.
The most amazing thing to me is that while Indians found multiple PL-15E fragments there is absolutely nothing found from the IAF. No Meteor, no R-77, no MICA, no Astra. Nothing.
They had BVR with the MKI way before Pakistan so in theory they should be the more experienced side. Even if you miss, you can at least get a few shots off.
But the reality as I see it is they are unable to engage at all.
Their air force basically is grounded because they can even detect their enemies or can't get close enough to detect before a PL-15 comes raining down on them.
I think people are confusing the back bulkhead with the array face
Also Ku band phased array element spacing is physics, that's locked in and it's definitely not SAM
And I mean do you really think it's even remotely possible for someone other than India to post the wreck of a Chinese missile AESA?
Credible rumor is that No.15 squadron is responsible for the slaying of the Bengal Monitor Godzilla. Congrats to the fine pilots!
I feel sad that due to Pakistan lacking HQ-9 in enough numbers or saving it for more important areas, Indians will keep claiming HQ-9 is bad at intercepting missiles, and westerners will lap it up.
That’s actually good. They’ll underestimate it and when they try something stupid during AR they’ll find out the hard way.
Still the large 600 TRM seeker with some TRMs attached do not match these pictures leading me to believe that one is not from a PL-15. If you could the mounting holes here you'll find 192 holes much less than 600. It seems people have been mixing all these pics together leading some to believe they are all PL-15 parts. Also IMO first time I saw the Ku band element was with the large 600 TRM seeker so that might also not be a part of the PL-15 as well
Even the S-400 doesn't get them all. Nor does Israel with regards to hamas rockets. You can't be perfect here.
Who cares. Indians told the world that their MKI can detect the J-20.
Now we know they can't detect shit.
That's 130 heavy-weight Su-30MKI that couldn't do anything except dodge.
Not a single R-77, R-27 or anything else was found fired while we have pieces of PL-15s here and AMRAAM in 2019 but never anything from the Indians.
Indians can claim anything but a pretty big chunk of the world sees them as incompetent and prone to lying at this point.