I'm ngl but the M88 and the Tailfin seem to be from the same field look at the vegetation
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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No, the pylons, engines, and vertical tail were all found in the same location, clearly the same Rafale
fuel tank belongs to Mirage, as evidenced by the engine in the same location
China should add a self-destruct function on the PL-15E for the scenario when it goes undetonated, and it only triggers after the Indians bring it into their science labs.
edit: people are claiming the PL 15 pieces are enough for india to reverse engineer it... doesnt sound good at all
edit: people are claiming the PL 15 pieces are enough for india to reverse engineer it... doesnt sound good at all
From what I gathered, claims not evidenced (yet):
Rafale: 3
Su-30MKI: 1
MiG-29: 1
Jaguar: 1
M2K: 1
Various tweets on M2K and Jaguar -- the Rafale, MKI and MiG-29 tweets are legion so will not bother with those.
Where did Jaguar come into the picture?
It is a strike platform.
Every Indian is celebrating this. So do we have confirmation that the debris only has limited value? Many Indians are claiming it's completely intact, unexploded, without a single part missing. And because of this, China won't sell J-35 to Paki, to punish them & prevent more tech leak.
Couldn't resist!
Ayesha Farooq is real. There are pictures of her with the J-7PG way back in 2013. Perfectly conceivable of her to have graduated to the J-10C a dozen years later.
The way I remember the incident was that the Mig-21 was heavily jammed with major comms disruption which mistakenly led it across the border. And the pilot had no idea about it; once he ejected and landed on the ground, he was picked up local Pakistani Kashmiris; thinking they were Indians, he shouted Jai Hind and got beat up. << this was all captured on video.
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Supposedly, F-16 tracking Harop
The intact Harop captured, hinting EW intercept
Why is this $10 million, while the Shahed-136 is just $20k?
Afaik, PAF hasn't recieved 36 yet. More like half that number.
I'm sure a big part of IAF's failure is due to non-exposure to JF-17 and J-10, unlike PAF who has trained with Egyptian, UAE, Saudi, Qatari and probably Chinese Rafale, M2K, Su-30, Mig-29, and whatever other relics IAF has (Jaguar and Mig-21). Upon receiving the J-10, PAF immediately went to exercises with foreign countries.Not trying to be a killjoy, but someone needs to say this out loud.
The Chinese MIC, blessed by PAF competence and IAF misadventurism, has a lot to be proud about right now.
However, a single air battle doesn't make the J-10CE infallible or the Dassault Rafale unredeemable. There are going to be many, many sorties to come.
Sooner or later, might be the day after tomorrow or a decade from now, the PAF is going to lose a J-10 or two. Such is the nature and rhythm of warfare.
So let's not gloat too hard!
Harder blow can cause harder introspection, correction, self-assessment. If PAF has found easily exploitable weaknesses with Rafale and other jets, then it's probably better to put the IAF in a position where they keep current stock. Otherwise, if PAF shot a dozen down in one go, it may force India to seek a newer platform for which PAF will have to restart counter training.
There are some operations that aren't being exposed much on media. The artillery fire from Pak Army into Kashmir is causing a lot of damage and India isn't reporting on it much. Many indians have claimed it is because those regions are Muslim and BJP doesn't care what happens to them. Reciprocal artillery fire from India is largely missing. Indian artillery, as i remember, is weaker than Pakistan's in both quality and quantity. I have not seen any reports of damage inside Pakistan from Indian artillery.
Most of the 700,000 is stationed inside the Kashmir valley. Jammu is outside it, and the road to the valley isn't an easy one. Outside the valley, Indian Army, BSF and other forces total around 50k - 75k in Jammu, Samba, Nagrota and Akhnoor. Every road in the mountains is a major bottleneck and troop movement is limited. If the airport is rendered inoperable in Jammu, that will limit troop movement significantly. The other road to Jammu comes from the south east, from Panjab, along a narrow corridor of 8-15km sandwiched between mountains and the Pak border. It's these regions that are being targetted by Pak artillery.
Mind my poor editing skill
Big circle: Kashmir valley, surrounded by mountains on all sides.
Small circle: Jammu, outside the valley.
1. Akhnoor
2. Nagrota
3. Jammu
4. Samba
This flight detour pathway gives a hint of where operations are occurring.
They did not specify air traffic or vehicle traffic. Could be air traffic with jets scrambling to return to base.
Didn't i tell you everyone carries guns in this country?
Expect to see a lot more of these clips of locals finding drones in the middle of fields.