Somewhere I hope Pakistan got some HQ-19 and/or other ABM systems set up. If not, they better get some right now.
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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Thanks for compiling all of this.
There still seems to be a lot of fog of war but it looks like we have solid evidence IAF has lost at least 3-4 aircraft at this point. However PAF is still claiming they shot down 3 Rafales but we only have evidence for 1 and 1 Mirage 2000. Where are the other 2 Rafales? It seems less and less likely that 3 Rafales were lost as time passes and we don't get any info. Is it just fog of war leading to overcounting of enemy fighters destroyed by PAF?
No ABM could completely shield against more than a few warheads at a time, not even those from the U.S. Also, Pakistan doesn’t have the early warning infrastructure in place. Best thing is to prevent things from escalating to that level. How to do so will take political wisdom, which I don’t see in South Asian leadership sadly.
HQ-19 is not for sale its RN the top of the line Chinese AA system thus is rather sensitive plus Pakistan would not be able to afford the cost of using HQ-19 much less than buying it. Also to use it properly you need a whole system of radar sites setup which costs even more money and is impossible to deploy rapidly
FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
To be expected, they have to defend the honor of their prized Rafale. Also IAF incompetence probably played a major role in the IAF's humiliating performance. In theory, J-10C should not have that big of an advantage over Rafale.
FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
If it's existence is known, it's probably no longer top of the line ABM system for PLA.
Plus even if China were to rush some systems to Pakistan right now, it wouldn't really change much in the short run. These are complicated systems that require a lot of training to employ properly. Unless China has PLA soldiers man those systems (very unlikely) they would be of very limited use to Pakistan for this conflict.
This merely states what has already been said on this thread, basically that 1 Rafale was downed and we have solid evidence for this. I'm asking where is the evidence for the other 2 claimed by PAF because they claim 3 Rafale shot down. Did they misidentify Mirage 2000 as Rafale? Or somehow overcount? Or did IAF manage to prevent evidence of Rafale loss(es) from surfacing yet?
plawolf
Lieutenant General
That total probably also include a lot of non-combat support platforms.