The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Sinnavuuty

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Take a look at my post from earlier concerning the wreckages and reported wreckages in:
  1. Akalia Kalan Village, Bathinda District, Punjab
  2. Wuyan Village, Pampore Town, Pulwama District, Jammu & Kashmir
  3. Ramban District, Jammu & Kashmir
  4. Akhnoor Municipal Committee, Jammu District, Jammu & Kashmir


As well as @bsdnf's post containing footage of the wreckage in Akhnoor:


You may also want to review @Sinnavuuty's list of reported wreckages:


These posts don't reference footage for each and every wreckage, but there should be enough information and URLs to get you started with finding the footage and answers you're interested in yourself.

If you're too lazy to search for and verify the footage and photos yourself, you can wait a few days or a few weeks: someone will inevitably compile what you're looking for, but factual accuracy will inevitably depend on their perspective and agenda.
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sheogorath

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Out of curiosity, does India even train for SEAD/DEAD roles?. Hell, do they even have the capacity?

Pictures of MKI with Kh-31 and EW pods seem to be rather lacking, not sure about their other platforms.
 

zyklon

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In my assessment, from what I've come across thus far, the Pulwama and Srinagar wreckages depicted by the above visual likely represent the loss of a single IAF Mirage 2000 in or around Wuyan Village, Pampore Town, Pulwama District, Jammu & Kashmir, which I elaborated upon in the following post:

That drop tank photographed and recovered by the IAF in Pampore has been identified by
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, to be of French origin and to be compatible with the Mirage 2000.

Moreover, given the severe damage the drop tank visibly sustained, both it and the French made aircraft it was attached to were likely struck by either hostile or friendly fire.


From what we know so far, and given, to the best of my knowledge, the lack of more compelling possibilities, this drop tank was most likely attached to the Mirage 2000 that was reportedly downed in or near Pampore, and initially
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as a JF-17 from the supposed appearance of its turbofan debris.


Subsequently, Indian defense analyst and media pundit Abhijit Iyer-Mitra acknowledged that the turbofan debris in question came from a Snecma M53, which would've inevitably belonged to an IAF Mirage 2000.


Not to say I agree with Mr. Iyer-Mitra on much, but he should know what his own country's fighter turbofans look like better than most of us.

This is obviously a working theory concerning the aircraft downed over Pampore on May 7th, so it's obviously both incomplete and tentative.

If anyone got a better idea on what happened, I'd love to hear it.

It's plausible that two airframes were attritted in or around Pampore on May 7th, but from what I've casually reviewed thus far, a single downed Mirage 2000 is the more likely scenario.
 

BasilicaLew

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I tried to find this news on Reuters but I couldn't find it. I only found this:
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They are using this video as proof that HQ-9 was destroyed but the video indicates absolutely nothing.
If a airdefense battery is "destoryed" it could be heard and seen from miles away, just look at that video of S-400 getting destoryed for context. These are systems with multiple tons of explosives in them. And secondary explosions. India has probably maybe hit NEAR the battery I suspect because of a late intercept.
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Observer1

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Here:

You can search for the evidence yourself on Twitter and group it together. I won't do that because it would take up too much of my time.
Thank you.

It actually seems like Pakistan's claims are holding up to scrutiny. A lot of evidence strongly alluding to backing them up.
 

bsdnf

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Still the same problem, I can't believe that this is the 6X6 truck chassis of HQ-16, let alone the 8X8 truck chassis of HQ-9

And whether this is HQ-16 or HQ-9, Indian osints should discuss a conclusion first
Confirmed, those Indians who claim&believe this is LY-80 or HQ-9 are absolutely idiots.

The launch unit, command unit, search radar, and guidance radar of LY-80 (HQ-16) are all based on a 6x6 heavy truck chassis.
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The tire is so big that it reaches the waist of an adult man.
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The rear of the chassis is unified as an equipment compartment, and personnel do not enter from the rear, but from the sideIMG_3850.jpegIMG_3851.jpeg
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Now the Indians are trying to tell me that this truck with a small tire that only reaches the knees and rear-entered is from a HQ-16/HQ-9 system? It is at most an auxiliary vehicle
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Randomuser

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Confirmed, those Indians who claim&believe this is LY-80 or HQ-9 are absolutely idiots.

The launch unit, command unit, search radar, and guidance radar of LY-80 (HQ-16) are all based on a 6x6 heavy truck chassis.
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The tire is so big that it reaches the waist of an adult man.
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The rear of the chassis is unified as an equipment compartment, and personnel do not enter from the rear, but from the sideView attachment 151622View attachment 151623
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Now the Indians are trying to tell me that this truck with a small tire that only reaches the knees and enters from the rear is from a HQ-16/HQ-9 system?
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Can these guys ever be honest about anything? Feels like I need to check whatever they say three times and even then I'm not sure.
 

bsdnf

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Confirmed, those Indians who claim&believe this is LY-80 or HQ-9 are absolutely idiots.

The launch unit, command unit, search radar, and guidance radar of LY-80 (HQ-16) are all based on a 6x6 heavy truck chassis.
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The tire is so big that it reaches the waist of an adult man.
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The rear of the chassis is unified as an equipment compartment, and personnel do not enter from the rear, but from the sideView attachment 151622View attachment 151623
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Now the Indians are trying to tell me that this truck with a small tire that only reaches the knees and rear-entered is from a HQ-16/HQ-9 system? It is at most an auxiliary vehicle
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Correction: The rear of the search radar vehicle can be entered, but the shape and size still don't match
 

xyz4321

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Pakistani sources claim to have intercepted a number of drones, which could include drones that qualify as loitering munitions, in and around Lahore.
That is nowhere near Lahore. Dialect is deep southern Punjab, terrain also.

It's not possible to wreck Indians because they're dead inside. All picture evidence is AI or of something else, all foreign statements of Indian losses are lies and all Indian admissions of losses are either from traitors or to allow the enemy to save face. And all actual Indian corpses are just Pakistanis in disguise LOL
What really gives his cover away is the double standard he employs when India is doing the attacking. He believes those alleged reports without vehemently demanding any evidence, and then exaggerates it. His previous post was "..India is hitting Lahore hard all day", when in fact there was only one drone attack of questionable damage.

These aren't your usual trolls. They are in fact low level NPC's programmed to change the narrative towards India's favor in the information war online, using whatever means possible including flat out nonsense. India's image was already damaged due to their open support for the Gaza genocide. This is their damage control. No point arguing against his diversionary tactics.

I'd say that is a mistake on their part to neglect drone development as it is the great equalizer for the weaker player (despite Indian incompetence they'll still objectively the much stronger side).

Lucky for them with China on their side they can literally change around with the snap of a finger
They were one of the first to enter the drone race but it's always been kept a secret, especially the numbers and specs. Couple manufacturers from early/mid 2000s.
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Would love to see a swarm of this sort tested in Kashmir with thousands of drones hitting remote hill camps and chasing Indian soldiers through the nooks and crannies of moubtains before exploding in their faces.
They'd have to be satellite guided or else lose communication between the hills. Mountains block everything.

At 100KM you can’t record video evidence for obvious reasons. But the aircraft should have a record of when weapon is fired, radar tracking for the target, acquisition lock, and when the “enemy” disappears. That evidence can be shared with PLAAF and AVIC, who most likely are eager to glean any important data from them.
What i don't get is how they can figure out through radar signatures (or something else?) which aircraft were shot and eliminated. PAF claimed hits on Rafale, Su-30, M2K, and Mig-29 before these video/photo evidence appeared on social media. And all claims turned out to be correct except maybe unknown whether Mig-29 went down or Su-30. PAF did not claim Mig-21 or Jaguar, or ... Tejas lol.

Can someone compile footage of each wreckage site and the likely aircraft it belongs to?

I think the most conclusively convincing evidence we have is of the Rafale.
Somebody has done that on a previous page, not too far back.

Still the same problem, I can't believe that this is the 6X6 truck chassis of HQ-16, let alone the 8X8 truck chassis of HQ-9

And whether this is HQ-16 or HQ-9, Indian osints should discuss a conclusion first
This looks like a standard commercial freight truck. Look at the tires.

If a airdefense battery is "destoryed" it could be heard and seen from miles away, just look at that video of S-400 getting destoryed for context. These are systems with multiple tons of explosives in them. And secondary explosions. India has probably maybe hit NEAR the battery I suspect because of a late intercept.
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Can also be a decoy.
 
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