The Kashmir conflict 2025.

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ougoah

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Indians want to distract by claiming they hit Pakistan targets. Well present those. You know what targets those are? Unprotected shacks on the border. Big deal. India spent hundreds of millions of dollars in leading edge western SCALP missiles to hit a few shacks not worth protecting. And then using this to claim HQ-9 (Pakistan operates an early 2000s downgraded HQ-9 export version called LD-2000 iirc) did nothing. Mate it wouldn't be a shock if LD-2000s were the ones that did the slapping of Rafales.

You think those Pakistani shacks were worth LD-2000 missiles. Lives are another matter but you guys are at war. How many major Pakistani military sites were hit by India? Zero ... 0.

How many air defence systems of Pakistan were hit by India? Zero ... 0.

Show us what India hit? I've looked at them. They were middle of nowhere, random delapidated buildings you guys spend SCALP missiles on just so your Modi can say they did something. Even then, Pakistan slapped at least 1 Rafale and 1 Mirage (more likely that second one was also Rafale) and maybe more that are not visually confirmed and identified to be a particular fighter model.
 
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lych470

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ohan_qwe said:
Price is not comparable as deals include different stuff like maintenance, training, etc.
No one would buy Rafael for 250m off the shelf and I'm pretty sure France don't pay that much for it.

125M is the result after a quick google. Still impressive that it's more expensive than F35.

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I suppose the Pak Air Force just saved India a lot of money then. Can't pay for maintenance and training if the plane is planted in the ground.
 
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"The wreckage of an Indian Air Force fighter jet shot down by the Pakistan Air Force has been discovered in the Ramban district of Indian-controlled Kashmir (Figures 1 and 2). Based on the condition of the ejection seat, the pilot appears to have failed to eject successfully.

So far, ground photographs and videos have confirmed the wreckage of four different Indian military aircraft: crashes in Ramban, Pampore, Akhnoor, and Bathinda—all within Indian territory. Meanwhile, the Indian military aircraft wreckage found in multiple locations across Pakistan has been confirmed to be unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs)."
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Can anyone identify the model from the ejection seat and wreckage?
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zyklon

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defenceman said:
Hi,
if someone can decode DG ISPR press conference & he is a 3 star general
he clearly say in it our jets remain in our territory did not cross the LOC to
shoot down the Indian airforce planes,
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If any Pakistani airframes were lost over Indian or Indian controlled territory, the Indian authorities would almost certainly make it headline news!

Therefore, if Indian authorities fail to make an official announcement concerning one of more PAF loses on the Indian side of the border with fairly incontrovertible photographic evidence soon — if not within the next day or two — then all the wreckages from last night on the Indian side of the border could be assumed to be Indian.

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Also, lol

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Not 50km+ inside Indian territory, but closer to ~100km inside Indian airspace.

Makes you seriously question whether the PL-15E's maximum range is indeed limited to 145km as
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zyklon said:
Not 50km+ inside Indian territory, but closer to ~100km inside Indian airspace.

Makes you seriously question whether the PL-15E's maximum range is indeed limited to 145km as
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Do we have any official PK confirmation that the Rafale was taken down via PL-15? Since the kill could also go to HQ-9Ps along the border and even IAF FF incident. As far as I know there has been two visually confirmed crashes with one highly likely to be a M2K and another a Rafale via the engine.
 
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