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antiterror13 said:
What the Qing did to the Mongol problem once and for all? I thought Mongol problems were sorted entirely by the Ming ?
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In the first half of the Ming dynasty, expeditions were launched deep into Mongolia to destroy Mongol power. Ming forces were victorious in many engagements, but the Mongols could always flee into the steppes, beyond the reach of Ming supply lines. Later, many of the surviving Mongol tribes pledged their loyalty to of were forcibly subjugated by the Manchus. The Dzungars were a group of Mongols that inhabited the Western portions of Mongolia and Xinjiang, and had not submitted to the Manchus. They were completely wiped out by the Qing, bringing Xinjiang into the Qing empire.
 
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AndrewJ said:
South Asia is a forgotten place, always being ignored by west & east powers. Until war begins. :rolleyes:

With China's rise, India was adored by US & Europe & Russia to deter China, which made India's over-confidence about itself.
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Stuff like whats happening makes me almost glad that China's main objective is Taiwan followed by Japan and Korea. Even with all the DPP brainwashing and USAID funding, its not enough to make Taiwan turn retarded yet. Ultimately its people are at least smart enough to not make wrong moves they can never recover from.

Maybe thats the exact reason you see the US tilting towards India instead because it knows the Taiwan card is pretty hard to play.
 
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Randomuser said:
Stuff like whats happening makes me almost glad that China's main objective is Taiwan followed by Japan and Korea. Even with all the DPP brainwashing and USAID funding, its not enough to make Taiwan turn retarded yet. Ultimately its people are at least smart enough to not make wrong moves they can never recover from.

Maybe thats the exact reason you see the US tilting towards India instead because it knows the Taiwan card is pretty hard to play.
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Can you please elaborate a bit of how "Taiwan card is pretty hard to play" ?
 
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antiterror13 said:
Can you please elaborate a bit of how "Taiwan card is pretty hard to play" ?
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It's simple. They want Taiwan to do something stupid that will result in war with China as soon as possible before China developed.

But it's not actually that easy. People there for one are richer and more educated. They are not willing to be Ukraine or whatever. They can say a load of crap but when it actually comes to doing something like declaring independence or even working towards it like building up arms they will come up with an excuse. You might notice the US keeps saying Taiwan isn't doing enough on its own part to take the China threat seriously from a military point of view.

Of course that based on information up to now. Maybe a black swan event happens tomorrow and we will be at war. Then everything I said is pointless.
 
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India is still whining China is blocking or delaying iphone manufacturing equipment to them coz its scared of India rising. What justification does China have in this case?

I believe India sanctioned China first starting in 2020 so whatever victim or innocent narrative it wants can take a hike. China is just simply getting even especially with a country openly saying it wants to take China's manufacturing. Then China has the right to protect its own interest. It has no obligation to help other openly hostile country. No human rights nonsense needed.

At the very least this is very expensive sensitive equipment. It doesn't go out unless proper procedures are done first. India should know this best given how much time they take.

Also I am reading if India really believes it has a case, then they should take this to the WTO. Instead it just spends it times whining on Twitter which makes me think that China should stand its ground hard. Its basically no different than a typical Indian customer complaining about everything, you don't give in.
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China's "little gift" of PL-15 VLRAAM -apparently from PLAAF stocks -might be just what is needed to keep India at bay from getting too aggressive and if an aerial battle ensues the if PAF is victorious with Chinese advanced arms tech and defeats india and diminishes French Rafale/SU30MKI'S and a flying KJ3000 picking up invaluable SIGINT from inside China-it's money well spent and a tectonic shift in military affairs.
 
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Ringsword said:
China's "little gift" of PL-15 VLRAAM -apparently from PLAAF stocks -might be just what is needed to keep India at bay from getting too aggressive and if an aerial battle ensues the if PAF is victorious with Chinese advanced arms tech and defeats india and diminishes French Rafale/SU30MKI'S and a flying KJ3000 picking up invaluable SIGINT from inside China-it's money well spent and a tectonic shift in military affairs.
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Its better than directly getting a fight with Taiwan right now. Get to fight without directly fighting. Get to finally see PLA arms in action but not take so much risk. Need to make sure things are ready for when the big showdown arrives.
 
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