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dingyibvs

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Randomuser said:
Vietnam really shows a lot of countries even if they are bigger or whatever have a very immature or not well thought out strategy with regards to geopoltics which is a sort of reflection of its citizens.

Like they are playing both sides, staying quiet and getting maximum arbitrage benefits while covering itself. Much better than many countries who didn't even dare work with China much because they weren't "cool".

On contrast for example we have India who wants to do that but somehow gets its all wrong. For example who openly declares I'm going to play both sides and take advantage afterwards? Or we can have Philippines who basically placed it's eggs in one basket without even hesitating.

Now you can see why Vietnam has over 1000 of proper experience while the others don't.
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Vietnam studies the Art of War, they know themselves and they know their opponents. Too many countries have a good assessment of neither.

burritocannon said:
mind you, the moment a pirate is attacked, it will be seen not as an act of legal justice but an act of national injustice. america will fight to protect its citizens where ever they may be in the world -

- if it suits the needs of the moment.
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Apparently they won't if they're in a Salvatorian prison, so maybe send them there if captured alive?

daifo said:
Doesn't China have a huge maritime militia including which it can also recruit from its huge oceanic fishing fleet?


Intresting nytime podcast with Thomas Friedman. Kinda funny how he wrote for many years about US superiority and the collapse of China up until he had a chance to visit recently. This guy at least is now more of a moderate compare to the rest of the sinophopic political and media .

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Going back to my point above, of all of the strategies in the The Art of War, most of them have some caveats to them, but one is absolute, and that's know yourself and know your opponent. That must be done at all times in all situations, no caveats, no exceptions. That's one part I think China has a big advantage over the US. So many prominent voices on China almost never goes to China (and you need to go often, as every few years China is basically a new country), especially not as a commoner, don't speak Chinese, and have no access to any primary sources of information on China. They watch youtube videos or read heavily filtered and biased think tank studies, and then pretend to be China experts while applauding each other's conclusions in their little echo chamber. Compared to the millions of Chinese who've not only been to the US, but have lived there. Even Xi visited Iowa and stayed with a commoner for a couple days before he became a big shot.
 
BoraTas

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TPenglake said:
Well, my worries have come to pass, Far Right Koreans have begun to take their anger out on the Chinese community over Yoon's impeachment, although thankfully the prediction there would be violence hasn't metastasized just yet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1913220068592464055
Here is the Youtube Korean news report on the incident. Google translating some of the top comments, disturbingly half seem to support the protesters. I think one of the comments alluded to the fact that the place the Koreans were intimidating is an actual Chinese-Chinese neighborhood and they didn't bother to go to a Joseonjeok neighborhood, mostly I presume due to the reputation of those neighborhoods for having a lot of organized crime gangs.
I don't follow Korean news that much, so I don't know how bad the situation could escalate. But I do hope a contigency plan could be put in place should things get out of hand and we get a repeat of 1990s Jakarta.
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Korean right wing is such a contemptible movement. They live in a country with tens of thousands of US soldiers and their wartime military is supposed to get orders from the CFC which is led by a US General. Yet they think it is China which is interfering with their affairs!
 
Randomuser

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BoraTas said:
Korean right wing is such a contemptible movement. They live in a country with tens of thousands of US soldiers and their wartime military is supposed to get orders from the CFC which is led by a US General. Yet they think it is China which is interfering with their affairs!
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That's Asian right wingers for you. Good at acting all nationalistic against other asians. But now like dogs in front of the west. Basically caste enforcers.

They are doubling down on the west because otherwise history will not be kind to them.
 
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Iracundus

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GulfLander said:
British media LBC talking abt trade aar. (Expect the typical antiCN stereotyping)
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Although they spend about the first 60% talking about the trade war and why they think China will win vs Trump, then they spend the next 20% talking about how China's innovation is used to create a seamless police state. The host said that given the choice between the chaos and uncertainty of Trump's America, and Xi's seamless technological police state it's clear which he'd rather choose. Although he doesn't say the answer, it's all but implied he'd still choose the US (presumably because it's also white). This is the racism creating such a total blind spot such that even if one side is objectively better in every single metric, they'd still choose the other just because they're white (of course they don't say that but use codewords like "freedom" or "democracy").

Then the last 20% is spent talking about China's weaknesses or potential economic issues. This is the final wishful thinking phase of hoping China runs into problems and somehow against the odds fails, even though they concede that if they had to bet on the winner of this US vs China trade war they would bet on China.
 
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