PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Iron Man

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Density is the planning of air defense following the principle of defense in depth, keeping the enemy engaged from the range of its missiles to the use of low-altitude missiles and cannons, in short, a layered defense in depth.

Obviously, this cannot be done in all of China or Russia, because they are huge countries, but high-altitude and long-range air defense is generally used when it is necessary to create air defense density of sensitive points within a zone of action.

In the case of China, it is even worse to use this example of the B-21 flying over the continent, because to do this, the US and its allies would have to destroy the entire PLAAF/PLANAF aviation force before attempting to penetrate any area on the continent.
You just repeated your claim without specifying exactly how the Chinese military would be able to effectively detect and engage B-2s and B-21s in the first place. No doubt China has a vast and expanding dense air defence network but this does not automatically translate into being able to block out these types of aircraft, which are not the same types as F-22s and F-35s which ARE effectively threatened by these air defence networks.

Curious, have you been to Taiwan? It’s densely populated along the east coast next to China, the rest of the island is basically mountains. The populated area is tiny. Also it does not have a “vast highway system” basically a couple major North-South highways in the populated areas, that’s it.
Twice, actually. And you don’t have to go there to look at a map of the island. Obviously Taiwan has large mountain ranges but essentially everywhere else is occupied by cities and roads. We just have a difference in opinion on what constitutes “vast”.
 

bsdnf

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It is difficult for ROCAF airfields on the west coast to survive the first wave of missile strikes, and ROCAF only selected 5 sections of highway on the west coast to be converted into temporary runways, and some of them still required the removal of street lights and fences before they could be used in wartime. So the west coast soon had no takeoff and landing capabilities. In fact, ROCAF was also well aware of this, and their assets were mainly concentrated in Chiashan.

This guy neither understands the highway system of Taiwan Island, nor does he know how many of them can be used as temporary runways:rolleyes:
 
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Iron Man

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ROCAF only selected 5 sections of highway on the west coast to be converted into temporary runways, and some of them still required the removal of street lights and fences before they could be used in wartime.

This guy neither understands the highway system of Taiwan Island, nor does he know how many of them can be used as temporary runways:rolleyes:
That you know of. What exactly prevents the ROCAF from using ANY available runway in wartime? Your personal knowledge? ROFLMAO
 

supersnoop

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That you know of. What exactly prevents the ROCAF from using ANY available runway in wartime? Your personal knowledge? ROFLMAO
Actually I heard about something similar a while back, so I googled it
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It does seem that a high amount of prep work is required to accomplish this.

Only certain highway sections have been designated with this capability. That being said there can be many more in secret, but that would be up to the PLA to analyze through intelligence gathering. If enough of these sections are identified, the idea of emergency runways becomes a moot point. In any case the biggest question with these improvised air strips is whether it is even realistic to rearm and fly sorties out.
 

Iron Man

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Actually I heard about something similar a while back, so I googled it
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It does seem that a high amount of prep work is required to accomplish this.

Only certain highway sections have been designated with this capability. That being said there can be many more in secret, but that would be up to the PLA to analyze through intelligence gathering. If enough of these sections are identified, the idea of emergency runways becomes a moot point. In any case the biggest question with these improvised air strips is whether it is even realistic to rearm and fly sorties out.
I suspect there are more highways being designated than is being let on. Also I suspect that this kind of prep work (e.g. removing street lights) is mainly for the E-2K to be able to operate, whereas for narrower planes like fighters this may not even be necessary.
 

bsdnf

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Bro really don't know the distribution of Taiwan's airports. Taiwan airports on the west coast, whether military or civilian, are concentrated in four cities. The advantage is that aircraft from military airports can be quickly transferred to civilian airports, but the problem is that the PLA does not need to invest too much reconnaissance unit to monitor these airports. For example, Pingtung Base is only 15 kilometers away from Kaohsiung Airport, which is very close from the eyes of reconnaissance UAV. Moreover, these airports on the west coast are very close to the mainland, such as Taipei's Songshan Airport, Taoyuan Airport, Hsinchu Airport, and Qingquan Port Airport, are even within the range of extended-range 300mm rockets. After all, What exactly prevents the PLAF from destory ANY available runway in wartime?

I emphasize again that ROCAF never thought that the air bases on the west coast, whether military or civilian, could last long. Their core assets have always been Zhihang and Jiashan on the east coast.
 

bsdnf

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And bro really thinks that ROCAF can easily straighten the road, smooth the slope (really important for fighter takeoff and landing), resurface it with high-grade cement and asphalt, remove traffic lights, street lights, electric poles, cement barriers, sound insulation boards, billboards, trees, height limit poles, and clear up refueling and loading platforms in wartime, the PLA just wait and see
 

Iron Man

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Bro really don't know the distribution of Taiwan's airports. Taiwan airports on the west coast, whether military or civilian, are concentrated in four cities. The advantage is that aircraft from military airports can be quickly transferred to civilian airports, but the problem is that the PLA does not need to invest too much reconnaissance unit to monitor these airports. For example, Pingtung Base is only 15 kilometers away from Kaohsiung Airport, which is very close from the eyes of reconnaissance UAV. Moreover, these airports on the west coast are very close to the mainland, such as Taipei's Songshan Airport, Taoyuan Airport, Hsinchu Airport, and Qingquan Port Airport, are even within the range of extended-range 300mm rockets. After all, What exactly prevents the PLAF from destory ANY available runway in wartime?

I emphasize again that ROCAF never thought that the air bases on the west coast, whether military or civilian, could last long. Their core assets have always been Zhihang and Jiashan on the east coast.
It's called lack of sufficient munitions, tough guy. I suppose you think China as a manufacturing superpower could just produce as many bombs and missiles as it wants to whenever it wants to, kind of like a magic wand that automatically ensures victory in any scenario. In real life, it's also a matter of keeping them suppressed even after they are damaged, because as soon as you leave they will start repairing the roadway.

There is also the issue of intelligence; you can at most guess where ROCAF is most likely to use certain highways for this purpose, but you won't know until the fit hits the shan and you see them in one place or another with their fighters.

And bro really thinks that ROCAF can easily straighten the road, smooth the slope, resurface it with high-grade cement and asphalt, remove traffic lights, street lights, electric poles, cement barriers, sound insulation boards, and clear up refueling and loading platforms in wartime, the PLA just wait and see
Really? Who says ROCAF would have to do all (or any) of that every with road in Taiwan? You're just adding things in to make it sound as difficult as as possible. Resurface with high-grade cement and asphalt? Come on man, you're just a little off from "studding the road with diamonds" at this point. If there are no potholes, a highway does not need resurfacing for a fighter to use it. These highways already are routinely used by large rigs weighing 30-40 tons at a time, multiple times a day. Why in the world would they need "resurfacing"?
 
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