PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

[sr338]

I believe it's the opposite. China needs to win in a decisive manner at least in the initial stage of an armed takeover of Taiwan. That will decrease the US's resolve to join an armed conflict. If the initial stages of an invasion is shakey, the US may be embolden by the prospect of an 'easy win' to join the conflict.

I strongly disagree. What you said is what they US want. What they don't want is for them to get dragged into war.
I think Mainland should take the sweet time with Taiwan so that US, Jap, NATO, all get dragged into it.
Taiwan itself is worthless, China's real goat is to push the US and western forces out of Asia.

I advocate to simply blockadge Taiwan, wipe out the US in the wespact and show the world who's really in charge

 

[votran]

that's just another wunder weapon. China can hit back much harder.
-H-6 with CJ-10 and YJ-12
-UAV with cruise missiles

US gonna destroy China costal airbases, so what? every US assets in the 1st and 3nd Island Chain will be wiped out as well.
Chese airforce can still use the airbases inland while the costal bases are getting repaired but all US bases in asia is done done for.

Result, US getting pushed out of Asia.

CJ-10 is the same as anti-ship tomahawk : sub-sonic non-stealth ...quite easy task for SM-2 upgrade , SM-3 , SM-6
not to mention quad pack ESSM block 2 upgrade with dual sensor active radar and IR seeker

YJ-12 is super sonic late sprint stage (near target) but still ...sub-sonic most of it flight time and also non-stealth . can be intercept by fight jet missile , and ship-based sam

don't look down on US naval power and tech

US navy alone not include japan korea can deploy atleast 50 or more Arleigh Burke in case war with china happen

each AB have 96 VLS + 1x rolling airframe launcher standard set up look like this : atleast x25 SM-6 , atleast x40 SM-2 late upgrade or SM-3 , atleast x40 ESSM block 2

and last x21 rim-116 block 2

that anti-air warship of US navy alone ...not yet talk about US carrier and atleast x300 F-35 stealth fighter , countless number of F/A-18 super hornet , atleast x10 Virginia class attack submarine + x15 Los Angeles class attack submarine (all nuclear power) hidden all over place US navy can throw in

 

[tamsen_ikard]

I strongly disagree. What you said is what they US want. What they don't want is for them to get dragged into war.
I think Mainland should take the sweet time with Taiwan so that US, Jap, NATO, all get dragged into it.
Taiwan itself is worthless, China's real goat is to push the US and western forces out of Asia.

I advocate to simply blockadge Taiwan, wipe out the US in the wespact and show the world who's really in charge

Pushing the US out of the Pacific should happen peacefully without fighting a full scale war. US should leave on its own due to "giving up" a pointless region that they cannot win, rather than a world war which will be damaging for China's economy. US should leave just like Soviet Union left eastern europe.

 

[lych470]

Pushing the US out of the Pacific should happen peacefully without fighting a full scale war. US should leave on its own due to "giving up" a pointless region that they cannot win, rather than a world war which will be damaging for China's economy. US should leave just like Soviet Union left eastern europe.

Violence is the only language that the US understands.

 

[GZDRefugee]

Violence is the only language that the US understands.

I'm not saying I disagree but you better have a plan for prosecuting this course of action to its ultimate conclusion: destruction of American ability and will to fight. If harm is to be done, it should be so severe that revenge is impossible. To do that China will have to take CONUS.

 

[sr338]

CJ-10 is the same as anti-ship tomahawk : sub-sonic non-stealth ...quite easy task for SM-2 upgrade , SM-3 , SM-6
not to mention quad pack ESSM block 2 upgrade with dual sensor active radar and IR seeker

YJ-12 is super sonic late sprint stage (near target) but still ...sub-sonic most of it flight time and also non-stealth . can be intercept by fight jet missile , and ship-based sam

don't look down on US naval power and tech

US navy alone not include japan korea can deploy atleast 50 or more Arleigh Burke in case war with china happen

each AB have 96 VLS + 1x rolling airframe launcher standard set up look like this : atleast x25 SM-6 , atleast x40 SM-2 late upgrade or SM-3 , atleast x40 ESSM block 2

and last x21 rim-116 block 2

that anti-air warship of US navy alone ...not yet talk about US carrier and atleast x300 F-35 stealth fighter , countless number of F/A-18 super hornet , atleast x10 Virginia class attack submarine + x15 Los Angeles class attack submarine (all nuclear power) hidden all over place US navy can throw in

Do you have any sense of scale?

China can make about 20 CJ-10 for the cost of an SM-6
Each H-6 can carry 6 CJ-10
Assuming using 100 H-6 at 2 sortie per day that's 1200 CJ-10 per day.

Your Arleigh Burke and patriot are gonna run out of missile very quickly.
Also, how the F35 are gonna hit the H-6 from 2000km away?

People have no sense of cost nor scale lol

 

[Gloire_bb]

YJ-12 is super sonic late sprint stage (near target) but still ...sub-sonic most of it flight time and also non-stealth . can be intercept by fight jet missile , and ship-based sam

YJ-12 is high supersonic for the full duration of flight. You're confusing it with YJ-18.

 

[votran]

Do you have any sense of scale?

China can make about 20 CJ-10 for the cost of an SM-6
Each H-6 can carry 6 CJ-10
Assuming using 100 H-6 at 2 sortie per day that's 1200 CJ-10 per day.

Your Arleigh Burke and patriot are gonna run out of missile very quickly.
Also, how the F35 are gonna hit the H-6 from 2000km away?

People have no sense of cost nor scale lol

they currently test F/A-18 carry AIM-174B , SM-6 airlaunch . each F/A-18 carry x4 of them , data link with AWAC and F-35 to detect and launch missile toward china tanker/awac or H-6

anyway CJ-10 antiship version range isn't 2000km but 800

 

[Gloire_bb]

Do you have any sense of scale?

China can make about 20 CJ-10 for the cost of an SM-6
Each H-6 can carry 6 CJ-10
Assuming using 100 H-6 at 2 sortie per day that's 1200 CJ-10 per day.

Your Arleigh Burke and patriot are gonna run out of missile very quickly.
Also, how the F35 are gonna hit the H-6 from 2000km away?

People have no sense of cost nor scale lol

In naval operations it's different. Ships are ammo limited by default, but they're also highly mobile. As a result, it isn't economy game(cost of interceptors v cost of attacking missiles), evaluation goes around CSG accomplishiblng it's mission. Ships normally don't need(must not) play grinder, they need to defend for the duration of a mission. Which is predictable number. Depletion of ammo, as a result, is mistake in planning.
Aiming at simply depleting the ammo, for the same reason, is mistake in planning for the attacker.

Exception of course is prolonged operations(high threat convoys), but to avoid grinding death those are normally supported by intensive offensive ops, aimed at containing threat.
If it's impossible to achieve, just don't send ships to die.

 

[sr338]

they currently test F/A-18 carry AIM-174B , SM-6 airlaunch . each F/A-18 carry x4 of them , data link with AWAC and F-35 to detect and launch missile toward china tanker/awac or H-6

anyway CJ-10 antiship version range isn't 2000km but 800

Who's talking about anti-ship, CJ-10 are for wiping out US bases.

DF-26, YJ-21, YJ-18, YJ-12 are more than enough to wipe out the pacific fleet.