For anyone interested in the source of these findings. This is the most comprehensive educational survey done in India by an NGO.
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For anyone interested in the source of these findings. This is the most comprehensive educational survey done in India by an NGO.
So they really want to develop and field a fighter akin to the Rafale for the 2038+ scenarios? Why not better developing a navalised variant of the AMCA?
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I would think that in 2038 there would be a 7th generation chinese plane flying, so that image is incorrect.
Is India looking to join the French led FCAS program, or perhaps partial participation by investing in the R&D of certain subsystems?
Considering:
(1) French assistance to the LCA program since the 1980s.
(2) India's acquisition of the Dassault Rafale for the IAF, and perhaps soon for IN as well.*
(3) Dassault's willingness to setup a Rafale assembly line in India should a more significant order materialize.*
(4) The physical resemblance shared by the Rafale and TEDBF.
(5) A desire by the Indian MoD for fighter systems like the AMCA, TEDBF, LCA and perhaps even Rafale to share common subsystems for obvious logistical reasons, or so we presume.
(6) The TEDBF's projected 2038 service entry date.
I can't help but want to ask . . .
I. What are the odds the TEDBF and AMCA will share turbofans?
II. Will the TEDBF more or less be a product of de facto and/or even overt de jure Dassault Rafale ToT to India(, but not happening for a decade plus because Paris wants to keep on milking New Delhi for as much and for as long as possible)?
III. What role is French industry playing in the development of the AMCA?
* I don't spend much time tracking Indian defense acquisitions, so please feel free to correct me if anything looks off.
It is just so NDTV to call an AMCA mockup a prototype. Not only that, they are calling AMCA a "5.5 generation" fighter.
According to the Project Director of AMCA. This 1:1 model is not a "display model", but an "engineering model". He further explains that an "engineering model", is not for display (what?), but for engineering tests. It was apparently made with aircraft-grade materials.
So if that thing belongs in a lab, why display it at Aero India, fully painted and kitted out? Why not just display a mockup, which is far cheaper to make?
According to the Project Director of AMCA. This 1:1 model is not a "display model", but an "engineering model". He further explains that an "engineering model", is not for display (what?), but for engineering tests. It was apparently made with aircraft-grade materials.
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Su-57 and F-35 flying in Aero India 2025.
Real 5th-gen fighter jets fly, and have been flying for years. While the 5.5-gen "Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft" remains a display mockup.
Real 5th-gen fighter jets fly, and have been flying for years. While the 5.5-gen "Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft" remains a display mockup.
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Engineering model instead of display model??!
That actually sounds worse, given that the "engineering model" didn't even feature DAS and IRST (even though the wind tunnel has the latter) - Both of which are standard equipment on literally every single post-F-22 5th-gen fighters around the world. WTF?
Also, is cardboard counted as "aircraft-grade material" now? Because the engine nozzles certainly look to be made of cardboard.
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A display mockup of India's CAT Warrior loyal wingman drone. And yet another presenter is calling a mockup a "prototype".
They do love to talk as if these things are already in service.
India Today is excited to think that the CATs would solve the Indian Airforce's current problem of a lack of squadrons.
So does this mean that the "squadron gap" is no longer an urgent problem then? Since the IAF could wait for the CATs to arrive.
India Today is excited to think that the CATs would solve the Indian Airforce's current problem of a lack of squadrons.
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The "engineering model" of AMCA, a 5.5 generation fighter lacks IRST, EOTS, DAS, and even has cardboard engine nozzles. But we must trust in the Project Director of AMCA. He must have known what he was saying. He is the Project Director after all.
Comment section are so intense. 