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Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread
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According to Yankee power generation is an important requirement for CHAD. They expect it to have same or superior EW capability to J-16D.
According to Yankee & Shilao, due to the 3rd engine, J-36 EW sit between J16-D and Y-9 EW variant.
So I think J-36 can burn through 4 gen fighter avionic render their missile even gun useless in WVR dogfight.
What if the role is to target B-21, when it refueling in some kind of air-base before it approach China mainland to deliver it's baggage?
Future more, if comes to WVR, we can't rule out the possibility of direct energy weapon on the J-36.
A bilibili user name @兰墨飞花 posted his own mesurement:
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Estimated length 24 metres
Wingspan estimated at 21 metres.
Maximum take-off weight estimated at 44_50 tonnes
Maximum speed is estimated at Mach 3-4.
Front landing gear on two wheels
Rear landing gear two wheels front and rear
Diamond-shaped, large-sidebar, lozenge-shaped, droop-less layout
10 movable flaps, (may be 4 full-action or 10 full-action)
Three engines, three air intakes, two CARET intakes in the lower jaw and one DCI intake in the dorsum
2D TVC nozzles.
Extra-large, extra-long bomb bay.
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As you can see j36`s bomb bay so big that even can carry two yj21 anti-ship missle
that is crazy
The scaled image comparison between the two is a good effort, but much of the rest of the details are somewhat doubtful.
In particular, depicting J-20 as being able to carry eight folded wing PL-15s is rather confusing.
The idea of J-36 being able to accommodate two KD-21s internally is also a bit doubtful, particularly in terms of the width of the J-36's weapons bay.
The idea of J-36 being a Mach 3-4 aircraft is also a bit overambitious and needs more than eyeballing its aerodynamics.
i agree with you opinon on j20`s ammo capacity,her bomb bay most likely can carry 6 folded wing PL-15s only.
We have a Chinese military expert say that GaO is almost ready and that will give China a generation gap vs APG-85. There is no proof that hypersonic missiles will be used on J-3
if you design a new 5th generation aircraft, you can definitely design a larger weapon bay.
Size of IWB by definition is a design requirement of one aircraft, not of all 6th gen aircraft.
Be careful to understand the difference between what J36 requirements are vs 6th gen of another country.
nothing they said actually contradicts what I have said. 6th gen will have unrivaled level of responsibilities leading both itself and a fleet of drones.
everything is does become more powerful and amplified with a bunch of drones.
No, I have been around for a while and it will be best if you keep calm and do a little less hash tagging and flag waving.
J36 brings many additional capabilities. Like B21 hunting, attacking Guam, Australia and Diego Garcia. Coordinating attacks on carrier groups that are more than 2000 km out. Think hard about these missions and what level of force package you need.
this doesn’t mean it can’t do solo missions but just that when facing strong adversaries, it needs help and there are many assets that can aid it.
That is very impressive. The amount of fuel it can hold in those wings once you can use thin T1000 level CFRP. The range is something you can dream on.
The UCAVs are unmanned by definition. So I don’t get the pilot part of your response. They are also smaller due to the lower cost nature. They simply do not have the interior space to have same level of electric power generation needed to replace J36.
J36 can still be the launcher of missiles but it doesn’t need to be at the front. It has more important tasks to do. It’s controlling many UCAVs.
can it perform the task individually? Probably, but why not utilize the surrounding assets?
Very important to consider here. I would say 60t is more likely for now but it can go up further as engine enhancement and material science improvement take place over time.
the range on this thing will be huge and the loiter time is extensive.
Right, people need to be a little more cautious on what J36 itself will carry and how fast it will fly. These things affect range of the aircraft and PLA will likely aim for best compromise.
yes, DEW is something that J36 has to be designed to accommodate even if it’s not necessarily there in day 1. J36 through high altitude, high speed flying, low observability, strong EW and DEW, will be very hard to damage.
and that’s the point, you want these force multipliers to be around