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jwnz

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Forget about soldiers able to vote for their general. The litmus test would and should have been about HOW CORPORATIONS ARE GOVERNED AND LED.

I have never once heard that successful companies should have been led by janitors and plumbers.
The argument is that employees and shareholders can vote with their fleet by leaving the company or selling shares. That's not usually a practical option for most citizens of any given country.

The best performing form of government is benevolent dictatorship, until it isn't. Liberal democracy is generally accepted as the best compromise, with the biggest strength being the ability to remove non performing leaders / governments, in theory at least and we know how well (edit) well or not that works out in real life.

I would really like to know what systems the CPC has to prevent incompetent / malevolent people from gaining powerful positions and abuse their power. I'm sure there are checks and balances in place, but it would be nice to know more.

While China has been blessed with competent leaders for decades, that shouldn't be taken for granted.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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The argument is that employees and shareholders can vote with their fleet by leaving the company or selling shares. That's not usually a practical option for most citizens of any given country.

The best performing form of government is benevolent dictatorship, until it isn't. Liberal democracy is generally accepted as the best compromise, with the biggest strength being the ability to remove non performing leaders / governments, in theory at least and we know how well that works out in real life.

I would really like to know what systems the CPC has to prevent incompetent / malevolent people from gaining powerful positions and abuse their power. I'm sure there are checks and balances in place, but it would be nice to know more.

While China has been blessed with competent leaders for decades, that shouldn't be taken for granted.
please explain India, Pakistan, Philippines, Nigeria and prewar Ukraine then.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The EU's elitist mindset is equivalent to that of a spoiled brat. First they think when they punish with tariffs, it's because you're being bad therefore you have no right to retaliation. If they can't stop it, they think an appropriate retaliation to their tariff on Chinese EVs would be a China slapping the same exact kind of tariff on Europeans EVs. A tariff on anything else is wholly unfair on China's part.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I did already by saying "in theory at least and we know how well that works out in real life", perhaps I should have been more clear and replaced "how well" with "how well or not", but you get the idea ;)
the 'incompetent ruler' problem is actually one shared by both democracies and their opposite - absolute monarchies.

What prevents a CEO from being extremely stupid or purposely running the company into the ground to boost personal stock invested in competitors? Because a random can't just jump into a CEO position.

This is just like a random CPC member can't just jump into the secretary general's chair. Xi spent decades shoveling pig poop, local government, etc. before rising to national politics.

Meanwhile someone like Tr or Bi can actually jump into the presidency, just like an absolute monarch can have a dumb heir, presenting the question of needing to quickly remove them.

But that is also only in theory, as both presidents and weak monarchs are extremely hard to difficult to remove by design. So now you have a system where it is somewhat easy for someone unfit for governing jumping into the ruler chair but being hard to remove.
 
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