New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Michael90

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Enestori said:
Hopefully some SDF users can use Eurostat themselves to show the world the massive amounts of money the EU makes from the car trade with China.

Getting this data from Eurostat:

Eurostat is a pretty tough and tricky website to use. Anyways, here's this data was obtained. Maybe experienced users can do things in a better way.

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Go to
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Click "Available datasets" => "INTERNATIONAL TRADE" => "EU trade since 2002 by SITC (DS-059331)" => "New query."

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There will be a page with six tables: "REPORTER," "PARTNER," "PRODUCT," "FLOW," "PERIOD," and "INDICATORS."

Click the plus button above all six tables to present all the options. To remove options, highlight unwanted options and then do "Shift + Double-Click".

If you make a mistake, you can click the plus button again to present all the options. (Hopefully this isn't confusing, because it took forever to figure this out.)

Select these options.

REPORTEREU-European Union (AT-01/1995, BE-01/1958, BG-01/2007, CY-05/2004, CZ-05/2004, DE-01/1958, DK-01/1973, EE-05/2004, ES-01/1986, FI-01/1995, FR-01/1958, GB-01/1973->01/2020, GR-01/1981, HR-07/2013, HU-05/2004, IE-01/1973, IT-01/1958, LT-05/2004, LU-01/1958, LV-05/2004, MT-05/2004, NL-01/1958, PL-05/2004, PT-01/1986, RO-01/2007, SE-01/1995, SI-05/2004, SK-05/2004)
PARTNERCN-China
JP-Japan
KR-Korea
Republic of (South Korea)
MX-Mexico
PRODUCT81-Motor cars and other motor vehicles principally designed for the transport of persons (other than motor vehicles for the transport of ten or more persons, including the driver), including station-wagons and racing cars
FLOW1-IMPORT
2-EXPORT
PERIOD202352-Jan.-Dec. 2023
INDICATORVALUE_EUR

Finally, click "2.Layout Selection."

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Select the layouts as below. This is probably extremely confusing, so please refer to the picture.

All the "Format #X" should be "Labels."

ROWS => Dimension #1PARTNER
ROWS => Dimension #2FLOW
COLUMNS => Dimension #1PRODUCT

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Click "Finish."

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You will probably get a really horrible picture that makes no sense,
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To improve it, click "Chart" => "Vertical Bar Chart" => "Refresh". Then click "Spreadsheet,"
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You now hopefully have a bad but usable picture that kind of makes sense, as shown in the attached picture.
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It's not that China doesn't spread its own news to people. Its just that China really sucks at propaganda to be honest. Its not their strong point. So it's hard for them to spread their own narrative. Russia is actually abit better in this department but still behind the West though.
 
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azn_cyniq

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Michael90 said:
It's not that China doesn't spread its own news to people. Its just that China really sucks at propaganda to be honest. Its not their strong point. So it's hard for them to spread their own narrative. Russia is actually abit better in this department but still behind the West though.
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China is bad at foreign-language propaganda, but they're good at Chinese-language propaganda in my opinion. However, you have to use Chinese-language sites like Douyin to see that. I'll try to find some clips when I have time, but I have seen some god-tier propaganda on Douyin.
 
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China is bad at foreign-language propaganda, but they're good at Chinese-language propaganda in my opinion. However, you have to use Chinese-language sites like Douyin to see that. I'll try to find some clips when I have time, but I have seen some god-tier propaganda on Douyin.
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The English press releases still sound like 1975 USSR or Baghdad Bobish. I feel if China really focused and put energy into it, they can have like 10 Aljazeeras covering everything non-NATO and build up soft-power. They have an English radio channel in Pakistan, but often times, it's discussing super neutral stuff no one in Pakistan would care about day to day. I dont want to listen to how panda xyz is doing in some zoo in a city in China I've never heard about. But I know people would love to hear about global geopolitical stuff, something RT amplifies alot. Anyway it's offtopic discussion.

On the topic, all the new gen hybrids can really make a huge dent into legacy car makers, I think that will be the bigger front on the market share offensive. Most of the countries simply dont have full electric vehicle infrastructure. A common man in global south really cares about how much mileage they can get out of tank, same goes on the bikes. Honda has been sitting selling CD70s without innovation for decades. A market ripe for capturing. Also, I've noticed, the mark-ups by distributors of Chinese cars in middle-east are crazy. BYDs going with 40% mark-up. Same distributors are also entrenched players with legacy car makers, so lots of conflict of interest. Will be interesting to see how the route-to-market evolves there.
 
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