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[daifo]

The power of democracies in action:

Remove require breaks for child worker.

"First-term state Rep. Roger Wilder, R-Denham Springs, who sponsors the child labor measure and owns Smoothie King franchises across the Deep South, said he filed the bill in part because children want to work without having to take lunch breaks. He questioned why other states where he owns Smoothie King locations, such as Mississippi, don't have similar laws, and criticized people who have questioned the bill's purpose."

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[FriedRiceNSpice]

All it says is the policy difference between public health insurance and the special government employee health coverage, and how the government employee health coverage is better.

This is fine but does not tell you the overall difference in resource spending between the 2. And so it does not support the assertion that canceling it would give significantly improved resources for the majority.

Salaries for government employees in China are generally uncompetitive when compared to the private sector. So in order to compete for talent, government jobs need to be able to at least offer better benefits. Otherwise, quality of government employees would decrease and corruption would likely increase. The alternative is to offer much higher salaries for government jobs, which would turn out to be even more expensive.

 

[_killuminati_]

I am not saying that China will collapse, but clearly it is far from being a "harmonious society" championed by CCP leaders.

This will make China a harmonious society,

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[Maikeru]

Salaries for government employees in China are generally uncompetitive when compared to the private sector. So in order to compete for talent, government jobs need to be able to at least offer better benefits. Otherwise, quality of government employees would decrease and corruption would likely increase. The alternative is to offer much higher salaries for government jobs, which would turn out to be even more expensive.

This is true in most countries, not just China. In the UK civil and public servants get much better pensions, more holidays and stuff like flexi-leave, long maternity leave, etc., more than the private sector. This it is hoped makes up for the pathetic salaries.

 

[supercat]

Well, it is true that fertility rate has collapsed in China similar to those of South Korea. If you insist that it was the CIA's PSYOP, then I guess the CIA has done a perfect job turning Chinese women against Chinese men (look up the name Leta Hong Fincher), just like the Megalia feminists completely devastating South Korea's youth population in the upcoming decades. Who's blame is it when neither the South Korean government nor the CCP took notice of the radical feminist threat seriously, which was based on lies and trumped-up charges against supposed macho patriarchy. Whilst feminism is supposed to give women more opportunities in work places and universities (as done properly in Western countries), feminism in South Korea and China has to led toxic family relations and utter destruction of birthrate. There are simply no solution to this issue (maybe immigration for females workers from friendly countries, I guess).

As with China's hyper competitive society, 996 is still illegal. It is an outright violation of China's own labour contract law. However, the government is powerless to stop the 996 practice because everyone is doing it. Now you have situation where there is a total disregard for labour rights amid a collective disregard for the law. It is average citizens who pay the price since they have no life outside of work. People who are worked to death are simply seen as the necessary sacrifices for progress, while well-connected bureaucratic capitalists continue to enjoy their party membership and secretly move their quasi-legal assets abroad. And the families of these bureaucratic capitalists could avoid the hyper competition of China by enjoying genuine liberal democracy in the US, Australia, and Canada as rich kids living in huge mansions. Call it social darwinism in its most sadistic and lawless form.

I am not saying that China will collapse, but clearly it is far from being a "harmonious society" championed by CCP leaders. It is extremely tough to make a living in China as a joe average citizen (especially young Chinese men without somewhat well-to-do parents), unless you are one of those predatory elites who are party members, whilst your privileged families move overseas to become the most ardent supporters of neoliberal policies in order to protect your often illicit properties.

I would look at China's situation from a generational view point. Most Chinese would agree that they have a far better life than their parents and grandparents, and they are confident that their children and grandchildren will have a better life than themselves. China has problems like every other developing country, but I think Chinese are smart enough to solve these problems as China develops and gets richer and more prosperous. Insisting otherwise makes one sound like a CIA/NED operative trying to instigate color revolution in China.

More BS about the nonexistent "social credit score" in China (or maybe some Chinese are deliberately trolling foreigners who don't know better):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780932167616311543

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

China IS socialist. All land is publicly owned, and all peasants are GUARANTEED the right to land. There's a reason why the quality of life in China is much better than that of the average country.




This is a map of median wealth (US dollars) per adult. As you can see China is far better than most countries except for developed countries, which has less people in all of them combined t

This is true in most countries, not just China. In the UK civil and public servants get much better pensions, more holidays and stuff like flexi-leave, long maternity leave, etc., more than the private sector. This it is hoped makes up for the pathetic salaries.

I don't know what shit lib/hanjian book @ChongqingHotPot92 been reading or more likely ingesting

You're either fully compromised (since you openly admitted on your prior posts about you meeting and hanging out with American "Academics and elites" in Shanghai last year) or you have been itching to finally come out from your shell that you're nothing but a shit lib hanjian or worse, a pretend Chinese.

You talk about free health care, cutting down leaders care etc.. as if those nonsense are even practice elsewhere in the world. You supposedly grew up with your grandparents tough, you're not the only one. Ask the countless people in the Philippines who grew up in the same predicament but with far worse outcome. Their parents go abroad for years without seeing their kids, family ended up broken up due to infidelity by both parents and that's from a DEMOCRACY with an appearance of rule of law. So your argument rings Hollow not to mention DISINGENUOUS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1c6lrvw
The AU citizen is a proud member of @ChongqingHotPot92 the man and his buddy, A UYGHUR-CHINESE went to visit Xinjiang, China and much to his great disappointment he could never find, validate the ONGOING GENOCIDE claimed by charlatans and western NGOS aided and abated by @ChongqingHotPot92 AMERICAN sponsors. The man's experience shook him to the core that he created an alt account on Reddit so that he can cling on to the unfounded reality that China is really committing genocide against its own people, DAMN THE STATS, DAMN WHAT HIS OWN SET OF EYES, EARS, TOUCH have sensed, seen, felt. No different than what @ChongqingHotPot92 hilariously asserted that CHINA FALSIFIES DATA AND STATS and we should rather believe the now deceased premier Lei a proud member of the dreaded CCP, and his assessments based entirely upon his extremist views.

What's funny about agents like @ChongqingHotPot92 they try to convince people not to believe certain stats because it comes from unworthy and untrustworthy source, yet is more than willing to use a Stat, statement from the same unworthy and untrustworthy source and people.

 

[ChongqingHotPot92]

I would look at China's situation from a generational view point. Most Chinese would agree that they have a far better life than their parents and grandparents, and they are confident that their children and grandchildren will have a better life than themselves.

The first part of your argument is defiantly true. Even if the Chinese economy were to crash tomorrow, there would unlikely to be famines or large scale civil war/social unrests that characterised much of Chinese history prior to 1978. The social structure and institutions are strong enough to keep the ship from suddenly sinking.

As with hopes for a better future though, the 2022 Omicron lockdowns really dashed many people’s confidence in the government’s ability to solve problems. Intentions were good, but when authorities to lock people up or forcefully evicted to quarantine centres, those who were charged to carry the operations at the lowest level of the power echelon REALLY enjoyed showing off their authority. Then you got all kinds of abuses you read on Weibo. And all those measure failed to stop Omicron. It took an uprising by November 2022 to force Xi to completely renounce the long-failed Zero Covid policy. By then, people’s hopes were dashed. China still has yet to recover from that social trauma.

The abuse of power at the lower levels of the nomenklatura style bureaucracy shows a failure of administration similar to those of the Great Leap Forward, but thankfully far less people died. No accountability or course correction what so ever until too late. Nonetheless, it has not stoped folks from questioning whether their kids could have lives.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

The first part of your argument is defiantly true. Even if the Chinese economy were to crash tomorrow, there would unlikely to be famines or large scale civil war/social unrests that characterised much of Chinese history prior to 1978. The social structure and institutions are strong enough to keep the ship from suddenly sinking.

As with hopes for a better future though, the 2022 Omicron lockdowns really dashed many people’s confidence in the government’s ability to solve problems. Intentions were good, but when authorities to lock people up or forcefully evicted to quarantine centres, those who were charged to carry the operations at the lowest level of the power echelon REALLY enjoyed showing off their authority. Then you got all kinds of abuses you read on Weibo. And all those measure failed to stop Omicron. It took an uprising by November 2022 to force Xi to completely renounce the long-failed Zero Covid policy. By then, people’s hopes were dashed. China still has yet to recover from that social trauma.

The abuse of power at the lower levels of the nomenklatura style bureaucracy shows a failure of administration similar to those of the Great Leap Forward, but thankfully far less people died. No accountability or course correction what so ever until too late. Nonetheless, it has not stoped folks from questioning whether their kids could have lives.

Keep hoping and wishing buddy. The only hopes that were dashed are your masters and your self-loathing self.

 

[SDFlurker]

I don't know what shit lib/hanjian book @ChongqingHotPot92 been reading or more likely ingesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1c6lrvw
The AU citizen is a proud member of @ChongqingHotPot92 the man and his buddy, A UYGHUR-CHINESE went to visit Xinjiang, China and much to his great disappointment he could never find, validate the ONGOING GENOCIDE claimed by charlatans and western NGOS aided and abated by @ChongqingHotPot92 AMERICAN sponsors. The man's experience shook him to the core that he created an alt account on Reddit so that he can cling on to the unfounded reality that China is really committing genocide against its own people, DAMN THE STATS, DAMN WHAT HIS OWN SET OF EYES, EARS, TOUCH have sensed, seen, felt. No different than what @ChongqingHotPot92 hilariously asserted that CHINA FALSIFIES DATA AND STATS and we should rather believe the now deceased premier Lei a proud member of the dreaded CCP, and his assessments based entirely upon his extremist views.

That post might seem like a funny meltdown of a propaganda addled western lib to most of the people on this forum, but it's unironically the correct way to go about it if you're trying to ease some libs into depropagandization(provided of course the libs you're dealing with are still capable of reasoning).

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The first part of your argument is defiantly true. Even if the Chinese economy were to crash tomorrow, there would unlikely to be famines or large scale civil war/social unrests that characterised much of Chinese history prior to 1978. The social structure and institutions are strong enough to keep the ship from suddenly sinking.

As with hopes for a better future though, the 2022 Omicron lockdowns really dashed many people’s confidence in the government’s ability to solve problems. Intentions were good, but when authorities to lock people up or forcefully evicted to quarantine centres, those who were charged to carry the operations at the lowest level of the power echelon REALLY enjoyed showing off their authority. Then you got all kinds of abuses you read on Weibo. And all those measure failed to stop Omicron. It took an uprising by November 2022 to force Xi to completely renounce the long-failed Zero Covid policy. By then, people’s hopes were dashed. China still has yet to recover from that social trauma.

The abuse of power at the lower levels of the nomenklatura style bureaucracy shows a failure of administration similar to those of the Great Leap Forward, but thankfully far less people died. No accountability or course correction what so ever until too late. Nonetheless, it has not stoped folks from questioning whether their kids could have lives.

If this is true then those Chinese have become entitled, soft and weak. I almost never blame individuals or cultural problems, since I'm a believer that problems are basically social, not individual. But in this 1 specific situation I have to blame the individuals because their complaints simply aren't valid.

Let's get it clear what happened: these people were not killed, tortured, imprisoned, looted or humiliated. They were not getting gunned down, their homes were not being demolished, their electricity and water were not cut, they did not face constant discrimination, they weren't enslaved, they weren't even asked to work! They were asked to stay indoors for a few weeks. If they could not handle that and believe this is 'social trauma'... what can I call that, but incredible weakness?